Originally Posted by average_joe
I agree that the CK10 needs deeper insertion, but I can't achieve it without the Ety mushroom tips. I guess I need to buy a bunch. Anyways, if I didn't have those tips and stretch them on, I wouldn't feel the way I do now. I still have to try triple flanges that aren't cut down, though (I do have some).
I would say wait for your ultimate conclusion until you try tips that extend deeper into your ears. That may also decrease the volume of air in the ear canal, improving the bass response.
I think this is very good advice. I was very frustrated with the Ck10s when they arrived. The stock tips hurt and I felt like the little IEMs were going to go into my ear all the way (with small tips). I could not get a clear, clean nor comfy seal with the hybrids either. With both, I could get the highs and mids, but they sounded somewhat etched and a little harsh. Bass was also there, but not strong.
Then, thanks to mp3, who posted to try the modded tri-flanges, out of nowhere. I had some on hand from my Westones, so I gave it shot. Wow, what a difference! I was in love with this IEM. Still am.
I had been using the Clear Bass at +1 or +2, depending on the tracks from earlier tips. And left it that way.
Today, I tried using a Shure bi-flange cut from the tri-flange (just out of curiosity and someone's request for a listen before they chopped up their only pair) and was not happy with the sound. Back to the tri-flanges. Happy again. Then, based on the CK10 bass discussion here, wheh I went out to shovel snow (20 inches here) with the CKs under my hat, I turned off the Clear Bass, and wow, there was bass there. A series of hip hop tracks came on, and I realized that while I could still use the Clear bass and they sounded fine, without any EQ the CK10 also sounded excellent. They are a little were more balanced, but not bass is there, not recessed.
This hobby is so frustrating, as this scenario vividly demonstrates.