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post #31 of 76
Discrete output stage eh? Things might be looking up.
post #32 of 76
I just ordered a db Audio's Tranquility DAC, which hasn't been mentioned much here but is getting strong user reviews on other sites. The Tranquility is USB only, with the effort focused on maximizing performance from that single input. Seems like a good idea to me now that all of my music is stored on laptops.

The Wyred 4 Sound DAC looks quite nice as well. Sim Audio also showed off a nice (looking) DAC at CES. Agreed that the DAC is finally seeing its moment in the sun.
post #33 of 76
Tranquility does look great, and its USB input uses I2S, which it shares with the preferred USB input for the Twisted Pear DIY Buffalo DAC in the comparison being done by some folks on AudioCircle. They also comment positively on the Tranquility itself.
post #34 of 76
Well, the tranquility dac also lets Windows doing the downsampling and the dithering work since it only accepts 16/44 through its usb input.
post #35 of 76
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Originally Posted by gregeas View Post
Sim Audio also showed off a nice (looking) DAC at CES. Agreed that the DAC is finally seeing its moment in the sun.
Simaudio's 750D I think has the potential to be a MBL/Boulder giant slayer, but there's still a lot of cost in there that goes to the transport that I don't really care about. Supposedly a DAC only version using the same chips is further along in the pipeline.

The 300D I'm sure will be a contender in the $1K-2K price class, but I don't see it besting the W4S.
post #36 of 76

Tranquility vs W4S DAC 1

Two very interesting new $1.5K DACs majoring on high quality USB implementations: we USB-elievers rejoice! Told you so. The Wyred 4 Sound machine in particular sounds great on paper: shame the box is so ugly: Wyred 4 Sound DAC-1
post #37 of 76
The box is supposed to be the prototype's one. I bet they will release it in prettier outfit than that.
post #38 of 76
Well. I'm not sure that W4S is much in the pretty box game. But I love the flexibility of an upgradeable digital and analog stage.
post #39 of 76
USB, is that async?? If it is, that's the one heck of good DAC to try considering that
Ayre sells for $2500 with only USB input.
post #40 of 76
The asynch USB option should be great.
post #41 of 76

USB option

Asynch USB will be a no-brainer for me: according to the pre-order page it will be about £200 more expensive, but with a half-decent cable, I suspect it will be the best sounding input. Actually, I really liked the USB option on Rick Cullen's modded DLIII . . .

But the prototype case looks just like the real cases of all the current W4S monoblocks and integrated amps, so I wouldn't hold out any hopes of sculptural or aesthetic finesse!
post #42 of 76
For asynch USB you only need a basic USB cable, so the money for a good USB cable is best spent on the asynch USB.
post #43 of 76
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Originally Posted by tosehee View Post
USB, is that async?? If it is, that's the one heck of good DAC to try considering that
Ayre sells for $2500 with only USB input.
It's quite interesting especially when compared to something like that Ayre unit.
post #44 of 76
Well, nothing is said about async usb option on wyre. Who knows if they are using the same async protocol as ayre or not.. If they are, man.. That's a cheap usb dac..
post #45 of 76
Info just released from Wyred4Sound (INCLUDING RELEASE DATES):

The time has finally come..... It's been a long journey for the DAC, but we now have another product ready to immediately impress. Many thanks to all who have been extremely patient during the development of the DAC and to all our customers out there supporting our passion! I can assure you; these products were worth the wait!

Two versions will be offered. We will have one for those looking for a DAC to focus mainly on SPDIF sources and to operate as a stand-along unit. This will be the DAC-1. We will also offer the DAC-2; it will offer more inputs including the overdue 24 bit / 92kHz Asynchronous USB interface, volume control, remote control and HT bypass. We are currently processing photos, and specs on the DACs, so please be patient, they're coming very soon.

DAC-1 product information

The DAC-1 will be offered with the following features:

* ESS 9018 Sabre32 Reference DAC (32-bit dac)
* W4S proprietary discrete output stages for optimum sonics
* ESS Time Domain Jitter Eliminator®
* Upgradable Digital, output, and USB boards (designed for future improvements)
* Automatic 500kHz oversampling for precise output filtering
* Fully balanced design with balanced and unbalanced outputs
* Oversized toroidal transformer
* Robust 35A bridge rectified power-supply with 88,000uF of filtering.
* LCD display for input and sample rate viewing
* 2x Coax inputs
* 2x Toslink inputs
* 16/48 USB input (future upgrade to 24/96 USB)
* Retail = $999 (starts shipping 4/09/2010)


DAC-2 product information

The DAC-2 will be offered with the following features:

* ESS 9018 Sabre32 Reference DAC (32-bit dac)
* W4S proprietary discrete output stages for optimum sonics
* ESS Time Domain Jitter Eliminator®
* Upgradable Digital, output, and USB boards (designed for future improvements)
* Automatic 500kHz oversampling for precise output filtering
* Fully balanced design with balanced and unbalanced outputs
* Oversized toroidal transformer
* Robust 35A Schottky bridge rectifier (also used in the STP-SE)
* 88,000uf of filtering with W4S low ESR "super-cap" (also used in the STP-SE)
* VFD display for input, sample rate, and volume control viewing
* Remote control
* Defeatable - 32 bit volume control via remote
* HT Bypass inputs (selectable via DC trigger)
* 2x Coax inputs
* 2x Toslink inputs
* 1x AES/EBU input
* 1x Balanced I2S input via HDMI cable (not standard HDMI cable format)
* 24/192 Asynchronous USB input.
* Retail = $1499 (estimated shipping 4/23/2010)
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