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post #76 of 96

Some very good and valid points Erik.  I completely agree with you, but there are circumstances where only headphones will suffice. If one lives in a condo/apartment with rather thin walls, I'm sure your neighbours would not appreciate a full 2.1 rig that continually rocks the walls. As well, for others with young children and early bedtimes, 2.1 (or 5.1) systems are typically shut down at 8pm. The latter is my issue and how I got hooked into this cursed place.

 

But I do have to admit, when my wife goes to Winnipeg to visit her parents with the kids, it's all speakers all the time!  I did invest a lot into my 5.1 home theater setup and now it sadly sits quietly for such special moments when I am alone and the house is quiet (not for long though after I typically pop in a Blu Ray concert disk with PCM / DTS HD sound). So here I'll sit with my head-fi gear waiting (and enjoying) as the kids grow up to finally get back into full sized speakers.

post #77 of 96

 Going 5.1 is a good way to utilize speakers. My TV screen doesn't even have internal speakes so even when we are watching the news we have surround sound. My wife and kids are used to it.

post #78 of 96

Exactly what I did.  325is w/ G-Cush and a Peachtree Audio Nova.  Well, maybe the Nova wasn't quite so reasonable but it's a lot more than just a HP amp.  I guess I need to hear some Senns properly amped, which always seems to be the caveat.  Heard the HD800 out of a Nova and a Music Hall and didn't like it much, specially for 1.4K.  It's hard for me to compare speakers to cans, it's such a different presentation.  I would never have Quads again, too itchy/fiddly for me.
 

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Buy a reasonably priced headphone and amp. I would be happy with a HD-600 and a Dynalo. That combination is a lot better than some will admit and betters some more expensive hardware.

A used pair and a little DIY will get you both for around $350. That's genuine value.
 
post #79 of 96

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One of the elephants in the room is that the PS-1000 is priced right into a sweet spot of very good speakers.
 

 

When you put it that way, they really do seem ridiculously expensive. I have to sell these right away.

 

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Well, just to chime in here again, one theme I read here is that the PS1Ks are peaky in the highs. I do not hear this.
 

 

Me neither, not in the slightest. I also don't hear the "boombox" effect someone else referred to.

post #80 of 96

It would appear that for some, the true measure of a headphone's worth is the number of posts and views that its thread receives at Head-Fi. So how does it feel to be in the minority PS1000 owners? 


Edited by MrSpenkelink - 11/4/10 at 11:32pm
post #81 of 96

So I was listening to my speaker system last night (my wife took the kids to their gymnastics lesson) and from a pure enjoyment proposition, I do prefer my full 5.1 home theater setup by a good margin. Cost wise, I've put about equal $$ into both.

 

But from a micro detail and critical listening perspective, I do hear more with my headphone rigs.


Edited by MacedonianHero - 11/5/10 at 6:12am
post #82 of 96

I actually have a very old-fashioned view on this. Given a choice, I would always prefer a multi-speakers' system for movies/TV and 2-channel or headphones for music. If the material is recorded for mult-channels, I want to hear it that way. When it comes to music, I would just go to my 2 channel system or the headphoens. I did enjoy some DVD audio like Beatles Love and DTS discs but I understand why they didn't catch on. Music is just fine with 2 channels.

post #83 of 96
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I actually have a very old-fashioned view on this. Given a choice, I would always prefer a multi-speakers' system for movies/TV and 2-channel or headphones for music. If the material is recorded for mult-channels, I want to hear it that way. When it comes to music, I would just go to my 2 channel system or the headphoens. I did enjoy some DVD audio like Beatles Love and DTS discs but I understand why they didn't catch on. Music is just fine with 2 channels.



But with the newer-fashioned technology of SACD, DVD Audio and BluRay lossless concert disks (all recorded in 5.1)...I think you might reconsider.

post #84 of 96

Until the latest crop of high end headphones was introduced a couple of years ago (HD800s, T1s, PS1Ks and now Chromas),

I never thought headphones could be as joyful as speakers. But these phones have convinced me otherwise (with some care and feeding, of course).

The catch is that a good headphone system is actually probably more expensive than a good speaker-based system.

I mean the source and amp and cables and power is just as expensive as a speaker-based system.

So the only difference is the headphones vs. speakers, and that may not be much. (Although a good used pair of speakers may be $3,000 - $12,000,

so there is some savings, but as a percentage of the whole system cost, not that much. And I wager that everyone here has multiple pairs of headphones.)

And, of course, headphones give people more opportunities to listen, and you can't begin to put a value on that.

 

Another thought is that you can easily get the glories of tube-sound with a headphone amp, while tubed power amps can be big, hot, godzilla monsters.

(Don't get me going on my torrid love affair with my B52, as I have mentioned in several posts here. This kind of affair lasts longer than the ones with girls do...)

 

Maybe I'm just belaboring the obvious, so thanks for reading my rambling thoughts...

Maybe we need a headfi philosophy forum.

We need a thread on Headphones and the Meaning of Life (with thanks to Monty Python).

post #85 of 96
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But with the newer-fashioned technology of SACD, DVD Audio and BluRay lossless concert disks (all recorded in 5.1)...I think you might reconsider.
 

Good point. I must look into it more. Are there a lot of bluray music video disc available now?  If the material is recorded in 5.1 than it should be listened in 5.1. I do enjoy watching concert and music video on HD cable (in 5.1). Hgnet has a lot of them.

post #86 of 96
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Good point. I must look into it more. Are there a lot of bluray music video disc available now?  If the material is recorded in 5.1 than it should be listened in 5.1. I do enjoy watching concert and music video on HD cable (in 5.1). Hgnet has a lot of them.


There are a few, but mostly there are BluRay concert disks (recorded in 5.1 uncompressed sound or lossless). They also include beautiful high def video. It's better than being there.

post #87 of 96
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There are a few, but mostly there are BluRay concert disks (recorded in 5.1 uncompressed sound or lossless). They also include beautiful high def video. It's better than being there.



Ibet its not as good as seeing Roger Water Monday do theing the Wall. Cant wait

post #88 of 96
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Ibet its not as good as seeing Roger Water Monday do theing the Wall. Cant wait


Thanks for rubbing it in Frank.

 

Also...depends on the seating.

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Thanks for rubbing it in Frank.

 

Also...depends on the seating.


NOBODY SIT AT THE WATERS CONCERT AND THEY ARE DECENT BUT THE SOUND IN THE WELLS FARGO IS SUPER

post #90 of 96

Can any PS1000 owners please tell me the weight of these headphones? Do they find them comfortable to wear for extended listening sessions? Thanks.  

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