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post #46 of 57
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Originally Posted by griffin View Post
I do know B&W (as in that B&W of Matrix 801 and Nautilus and ...fame)...

these folks are/have been at or near the pinnacle of loudspeakers design for what seems to be centuries....

Most everything they do, they do (as a minimum) very well. Interesting to see what kind of price point they hit. I can also tell you that the "B&W family sound" is more on the cold and dark sounding side of things. Some folks love 'em and some don't...but none suggest they are poorly made or engineered. They do look a little like the pix of Ultrasone's higher end models I have seen over the 'net.
Whoah ... I sold B&W for ten years ... and they have NEVER sounded cold and dark.... Their tweeter and mids have been used forever in recording studios for their VERY accurate and open sound. I would say MOST B&W speakers lean to the brighter and livelier sound spectrum. Only the Nautilus is a smoother sounding part of their line-up.
post #47 of 57
If the headphones are anything at all like their speakers, they are VERY, VERY revealing of upstream components. In my store, we tried their speakers with scores of different amps/cables/ect ... and they were VERY picky about upstream stuff. The speakers need world class amplification to show what they are capable of.
As far as bright or dark, we brought in Tara Labs cables just to cool down their lively treble, due to Tara being a smooth and musical sounding cable. Tara Labs RSC Air cables and B&W are a match made in heaven !

The best amplification I EVER heard with the top of the line Nautilus and Matrix series, was a Classe CA-400. The 400w/ch and Nautilus 800s blew me away, and sounded more realistic and live than ANY system I have heard before or since to this very day !!!
post #48 of 57
I love my Nautilus 800's, but B&W will still have to prove to me that they can make good sounding headphones - they are not the same deal. I have hope, but the proof will be in the pudding
post #49 of 57
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Originally Posted by Skylab View Post
I love my Nautilus 800's, but B&W will still have to prove to me that they can make good sounding headphones - they are not the same deal. I have hope, but the proof will be in the pudding
Oh well, i dont want pudding on my phones. I dont know whether ill buy them if pudding is going to get into my hair. Can i buy a set without the proof?

:B&WHeadphoneSmile:
post #50 of 57
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Originally Posted by Skylab View Post
Not always. The best isolating can I have ever used is the on-ear Sennheiser HD-25.
Even better than your DT770?
post #51 of 57
Oh yes. Definitely better.
post #52 of 57

I tried them today at Apple store London

They are in stock for £249.

Build quality was good, style was very effective at placing an on ear without too much pressure.

I don't think these were anywhere near burnt in.

I liked the treble but bass was missing something. I had been using IE8's for an hour before getting there. I went via the WESC store on Carnaby Street - what a waste of time that turned out to be.

Back to the P5. My main complaint was the warmth of my ears with these on. This was mid March - cold outside but usual Apple heat inside. My ears were getting too hot after only 5 minutes.

I was running the iPhone 3GS with lossless and the H120 + D10 with BG caps. I prefer the Senn HD25 II's to these. At Apple prices, they were within £20 of each other but they can be had for half that a mile up the street. Efficiency was lower than expected. Up to 90% on iPhone or what would be 60% on ESW10's.

There was a lot of noise in store and I'd say isolation was worse that IE8's which aren't great.

If they did a 'cooler' replaceable pad for warmer wear I might be moved to buy them.

Hope that helps a little.

Regards

Sceptre
post #53 of 57
Not really relevant - but I like B&W a lot as a company. I've had various models of their speakers constantly since '86 - they always seem to do it for me come audition time. I've bought spare parts direct from them occasionally over the years ( and as recently as last week! ), and they've always been very friendly, knowledgeable and a pleasure to deal with - even when trying to source obsolete parts. Once inside - I'm always impressed by the build-quality of their kit, and the thought that clearly goes into the design and construction, even the lower cost, higher volume stuff.

These particular headphones look to me like they are aimed at iPod users with cash to spare - rather than specifically at audiophiles, if you know what I mean, but if I were in the market for this type of headphone, I'd buy B&W on the company alone.

I have nothing to do with B&W btw - just credit where credit is due.

Pluck
post #54 of 57
Whats the chances of someone at the NY meet tomoorow having a set so i can have a listen? Hmmmm.....prolly 3%.
Id love to hear them.
post #55 of 57
I have a feeling these will be uncomfortable. I don't like on-ear headphones at all, especially the bulky ones.
post #56 of 57
They are not that big, on the larger side for portable cans. Nothing close to Senns.
post #57 of 57
P5s are perfectly sized not too big and not too small.. they are the size of the average human ear lobe..
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