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Will virtual grounds screw my idea?

post #1 of 7
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Hey all, long time lurker, first time poster. But the weather here in WI is getting ready to go full-on winter, so it's time to stop building speakers in the garage and start looking towards indoor projects.

I've been laying out a combination of a Cmoy (or maybe the JDS BBcMoy), a Tangent cross-feeder & BantamDAC all in one box. I realize the cMoy is uber-basic as amps go and maybe it's all lipstick on a pig, but I was planning on trying to keep the wiring as modular as possible. Then, if I got the urge to upgrade, I'd just pull the amplifier section, cut a few more breathing holes in the chassis and swap in something beefier. Modular should also help me keep the projects "separate" in the box so that, if the crossfeeder doesn't work or whatever, I can always just bypass the offending module and still make sound.

I was also going to add an additional DPDT rotary switch as a 2-way input selector and then wrap the whole thing in a wooden chassis with nice fat wooden knobs for the various pots and selectors. You know, for a warmer sound.

I've done a number of electronics kits and DIY soldering projects, so I'm not too worried about the actual assembly. I am, however, a real rookie where power supplies and amplifiers are concerned. I was going to run the cMoy off a linear regulated wall wart and allow the BantamDAC to power itself. I also planned to run an iPod dock in via the 2nd input.

Put simply, am I going to have grounding issues? I *think* that since the wall wart is of the linear regulated variety, I shouldn't have problems. Then again, as a speaker builder, I'm used to big fat passive components not directly connected to AC.

Let me know if you guys have any advice for the rookie builder.

Thanks all!

GDL
post #2 of 7
Why not just run a 5v regulator off of your 12v linear supply? That way all you need is power and signal to your box. I would not try to power the bantam from the PC unless I had to.
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Originally Posted by rembrant View Post
Why not just run a 5v regulator off of your 12v linear supply? That way all you need is power and signal to your box. I would not try to power the bantam from the PC unless I had to.
Eh? That's it? Just one of these?
+5V Fixed-Voltage Regulator 7805 - RadioShack.com

Or will I need more goodies to pull it off?

Even then, getting voltage from the linear supply, I'm still concerned that I'll have paths to ground through the USB cable and the ground on the iPod dock. Not to mention that the power supply in the cMoy creates a virtual ground. Doesn't that mean that, with a 12v DC input, the cMoy's "ground" is actually at +6v relative to the earth ground of the DC power source?
post #4 of 7
The 5V regulator is all you need. Maybe a small heatsink but the Bantam doesn't pull that much current. You'll also want caps on both sides of the regulator to smooth out the supply. 100uF at 15V (or more) for the 12V side and 10uF at 10V (or more) for the 5V side are pretty standard. These values aren't written in stone and their exact value isn't important as long as they store enough energy to smooth any ripple in load, and you could probably get away with no caps at all, but they're cheap and can't hurt.
post #5 of 7
The cmoy's virtual ground should work with the bantam dac just find since all the stages are coupled with capacitors. Also I would just use the default USB power for the bantam rather than adding another regulator. The power from USB is filtered on board already and I think the consensus is that there's no audible benefit to using an external power source. That and it would add unnecessary complexity especially for a first build.
post #6 of 7
Yeah I would agree that the 7805 is unnecessary and USB power is fine. The post above was assuming you really wanted to use a separate supply.
post #7 of 7
To use an external regulator for the Bantam, you would need to ensure that Vbus only gets power when the USB is attached.
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