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The Ultrasone Edition 8's - a preliminary impression

post #1 of 37
Thread Starter 
I decided to take the plunge and venture into the realm of high priced cans.

I wanted a new closed headphone. One that I could easily lie in bed with and not disturb my wife. One that wouldn't be too bulky when shifting my head around. I decided, on impulse to get the Edition 8's. There are many pics here, so I'll not post yet another set here.

Appearance, build and weight:
I was pleasantly surprised here. They are very well built cans. Not as blingy as I expected. Though the driver housings sport a glossy finish, it's of a low tone in colour and doesn't reflect that much light. They are surprisingly light too. The leather used is great.... what more can I say.

Fit and Sound Isolation:
They are full circumaural and my ears fit comfortably enough. There is enough depth to the cups that none of my pinna comes in contact with the driver grills or pads. The clamping force reminds me of that of the HD650's. At first, it's a bit off-putting, but I find that I grow accustomed to it, rather than annoyed with it to the point where I need a timeout.

Sound isolation is good but not as great as is described. I smiled when I put them on and could hear the ambient sounds around. My Bose noise cancelling and W3's are better at isolation. So there's some hype there.

Overall sound:
On initial listening, what stood out with the Edition 8's was the level of detail heard. They are fast cans and they are the most detailed that I've ever heard. Of course, this needs to be taken into context since I've never heard electrostats, and I've never heard the HD800's or other similar cans. Sound separation is fabulous with my being mesmerized by the details heard in vocals, lead instrumentation and drums!

In terms of balance, the forwardness of the mids and early highs is quite evident when compared to my D5000's. Quite Grado like in a sense. However, and a big however, I'd never use the word shrill or bright here. You end up with a very intimate, engaging and lush sound.

The bass took a while to really come out. It took some burn-in and I must say that these Edition 8's have been my most convincing experience where burn-in is concerned. I read in reviews about the depth and extension of the bass response. Initially, I wasn't particularly impressed. However, after my first session, I left them burning in for 24 hours and gave them a go again. The bass was now very different and has been getting better. I just love the bass coming from these things. The Denons are big on bass depth and extension. But perhaps too big at times. Not so with these Edition 8's. I'm astonished at how effortless the bass depth and extension is. If the recording has it there, the Edition 8's delivers in spades. It makes for quite an attacking and exciting presentation. The same for the mids BTW.

Sound stage:
This new technology, S-Logic, is what's supposed to give soundstage. The sound stage is very good for the form factor. There's an airiness that is very much like that of an open can. However, the seal and closed environment does have an effect on the eardrums which remind me that I'm wearing closed cans. The sound-stage is similar or a little better than my RS2i's. I wouldn't consider it one of its really strong points.

Conclusion:
All in all, I'm very pleased with these cans and consider them to be technically, the best I've ever heard by a considerable margin. Albeit, more importantly for me, they're also VERY fun to listen to. Very fun indeed.... and at the end of the day, this is what I was looking for. It seems to be doing well with all genre's I throw at it.

I do wonder if I got my moneys worth and have no regrets considering what I'm hearing from these cans while they are closed, relatively small and light weight. For those who can afford to, I highly recommend trying these.
post #2 of 37
Great initial impressions. I'm very interested in this phone. Personally, I prefer "fun" to technically accurrate, so I had hoped the ED8s would work out for me. Unfortunately, I also prefer comfort to isolation, and am disappointed that the ED8s have the same "comfort" issues as the HD650. To me the Senn's are crazy uncomfortable, so it will be hard for me to take the ultrasone plunge.
post #3 of 37
Thread Starter 
Yeah. If you find the HD650's to be 'crazy uncomfortable', then I'd be careful with the Edition 8's, i.e., to at least try them before making up your mind with their fit. Mine has pretty much the identical grip strength to the HD650's.
post #4 of 37
I worry that I did not choose my words carefully. All that I am trying to convey is that the HD650 aren't for me because they are laid-back to my ears, and I find the clamping pressure on head a distraction at best, and painful at worst.
post #5 of 37
Clamping pressure can be reduced. I can not say that ed8 are uncomfortable, although mine will require some more tweaking to be perfect. Isolation is OK, it is not as good as in noice cancelling phones or full-shell customs, but pretty descent IMO. Forwardness in mids is something that bothers me a bit too, as I am used to less forward mids in Denons and 900's but I guess it is a question of getting used to their character. On the other hand mids five vocals such naturallness that is quite amazing. Soundstage is good but not amazing, I think it will require some more extensive burn in and maybe recabling, to really add that "air around instruments". And I feel they DO love high quality source and amplification! Make sure you are using the best and they will amaze you and give you goosebumps. Using them with portable rig, alhough OK, is waste of their TRUE potential. Al least that's how I feel
post #6 of 37
Thread Starter 
I use mine with my HeadRoom Ultra Desktop Amp and DPS. I know that has a lot to do with why I'm having so much fun with these Ultrasones. I have no intention of using them straight from a portable device. That's what my ESW9A's are for, and even then, I much prefer the ESW9A's with my P-51 Mustang.
post #7 of 37
compared to ed9, the ed8s reduce the clamping pressure, which induce better comfortability and less isolation.
post #8 of 37
I find that the cushions are much more comfortable and soft than the HD650 even though the clamping force is probably fairly equivalent.
post #9 of 37
If someone could figure out a way to make the ED8s more comfortable, I'd swoop them up in a minute. As it is, I just cannot see paying that much money for headphone that clamps my head.
post #10 of 37
Thread Starter 
Have you tried them? We're seeing mixed testimony about them. I wondered about their worth and then looked at the cars on the street and the watch that I had on my wrist, the TV I have at home.

It's not only about the basic deliverance of function, but how much you're willing to pay for that much extra as well as how much that extra is worth to you. Interestingly, $1400 for a piece of jewellery is regularly spent. When I thought about it along those lines, I immediately felt a lot better.
post #11 of 37
No, I have not tried them. The reviews I have read indicate that the clamping force is similar, although not identical to, the HD650. Your review is not the only one to make the comparison to the HD650, so I take it at face value that this is likely the case.

I have a pair of HD650, and I never ever use them because I find them to be uncomfortable, sometimes painful, and always sufficiently distracting to prevent me from focusing on the music. I've tried bending the headband and every other trick I can think of, but to no avail. Those cans just can't cut it.

All this having been said, I should point out that my take on headphones is that, above all else, they should be both "fun" and "comfortable." I am not at all attracted to highly analytical headphones, and see the term "neutral" in describing a headphone as a possible area of concern. That is not to say that I consider headphones described as neutral to be "bad" per se; there are plenty of headphones that are both "neutral" and "fun." For example, the D7000 comes to mind.

I suspect that the ED8 is another can that is both neutral and fun. My only concern is that they may not be comfortable. If they were, then I'd have no problem shelling out the money to spend a few years with them.
post #12 of 37
I have worn mine for about 6 hours non stop with no discomfort. On the other hand I can not wear a Grado (except GS1000) for more than 30 minutes without discomfort.
post #13 of 37
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Originally Posted by nc8000 View Post
I have worn mine for about 6 hours non stop with no discomfort. On the other hand I can not wear a Grado (except GS1000) for more than 30 minutes without discomfort.
How do you like the comfort level of the HD650?
post #14 of 37
I have fallen in love with the sound of my Pro900, and for me that was the end of my Head-Fi journey. Then I woke up and saw an opportunity for an Edition8 and considering the Pro900 is so good, it is simply not humanly possible to resist the "I wonder how good they will be". And there you have it, ED8 on the way.

For all people that could give a stuff, I will do a comparrison of the ED8 vs the Pro900, are they worth it?
post #15 of 37
Looking forward to it.
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