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post #706 of 827

I am really considering getting a good pair of IEMS. For the home headphones I am happy with Sennheiser HD598, now need something better than what I use now ... Bose IE2. question is .... are these Shure 535 and W4r so much better than Bose IE2 or is it something you really need to pay close enough attention to really distinguish the improvement of sound?

 

thanks

post #707 of 827

Ha! Just to make everyone jealous, I went down to earphone shop in Korea, and demoed customs. Tried JH16FP(again), Rooth LS8/+, Rooth LS5X, ES5, UE18, UM Miracle, and UM Merlin. Kind of pissed that they didn't have UERM for demo, but more customs I hear, more I appreciate my UERM. Out of the ones I've tried, UE18 was probably my fav. It was like UERM, but with more bass.

 

So, out of the ones I listed and UERM, here's my list just based on my preference.

UERM-UE18-JH16-LS8-Miracle-LS8+-LS5X-Merlin-ES5

 

TBH, when I first heard the ES5, I was like WTF. It sounded so congested when compared to UERM and JH16 that I was comparing it to. The mids were sweet and thick, but it sounded muddy and congested. Sorry for any ES5 fans. They are just not my cup of tea. Also, two hybrids are low in my chart because they had too much emphasis on bass, and I just prefer BA bass.

 

So conclusion? I still love my UERM, but I wouldn't mind a UE18 for a change. I guess little more bass won't hurt.

post #708 of 827
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Originally Posted by Grayson73 View Post
 

Update:

 

Zero Audio Carbo Tenore > TDK BA200 > Monster Gratitude >  VSonic GR07 MK2 > Zero Audio Carbo Basso > NuForce NE-700X > Hifiman RE-400 > MEElectronics A161p > Audio Technica ATH-CKN70 > Philips SHE3590 > Hifiman RE2

 

 

IEM comparison
 
TDK BA200 (stock comply tips).
VSonic GR07 MK2 (largest stock purple tips)
Monster Gratitude (Meelectronics double flanged tips)
Zero Audio Carbo Tenore (Meelectronics double flanged tips)
Zero Audio Carbo Basso (Meelectronics double flanged tips)
HiFiman RE400 (Meelectronics double flanged tips)
 
Music preferences:  Rock and Pop.  
 
Treble:  Gratitude and GR07 MK2 sound the brightest, then Tenore, then Basso, then BA200.  I think the RE400 is equal to the Gratitude/GR07 MK2 or Tenore,  but don't recall exactly.  I found that the Gratitude was tuned too high (e.g. snare drums sound too bright).  BA200 treble is too smooth and not enough quantity.  Tenore is my favorite in this category because they aren't as smooth as BA200 and not as harsh as Gratitude/GR07 MK2.
 
Mids:   For vocals, the best are Tenore and BA200.  Female vocals sound like they are in the room singing to you and are so buttery; gives me chills.  I give a slight edge to Tenore because they sound more airy.  Gratitudes are clear but singer sounds farther away.
 
Bass:  My favorite in this category is the Gratitude.  In terms of quantity, Basso > Gratitude > Tenore > BA200=GR07 MK2 > RE400.  However, I found the Basso to have too much bass and not as good mids.  Gratitude has the best quality bass.  For my tastes, Gratitude and Tenore have the quantity that I desire.  Tenore bass hits hard enough and is punchy.  Bassos have too much and BA200, GR07 MK2, and RE400 have too little.
 
Detail:  GR07 MK2 and Gratitude have the most detail (and maybe RE400), then Tenore and Basso then BA200.
 
Efficiency:  GR07 MK2 is the most efficient, then Gratitude, BA200, Tenore/Basso.  Don't have the RE400 any longer to compare.
 
My favorite is the Tenore because they sound the most natural and true to life and they have the combination and quantity of bass/mid/treble that I desire.  Female vocals give me chills and have the most texture.  Next would be BA200 (smooth and great mids) and Gratitude (big and energetic).  Basso has too much bass and GR07 MK2 and RE400 had too little bass and sounded a little boring.
 
 
Improvements to my favorite 4 that I would love to find
 
Tenore: Would like slightly darker tuning (but not as dark as BA200), and bass quality of the Gratitude
BA200:  Would like more bass, more treble extension.
Gratitude:  Love the bass quantity and quality, detail, and treble extension.  Wish they were tuned darker so that they would sound more natural and true to life.  Snare drums too bright sounding.
GR07 MK2:  Would like more bass (maybe I'd like the Bass Edition?)
 
Tenore is close to perfect, but would love to find one with incredible vocals, have life-like tuning, quality bass and decent quantity bass, and detailed, but slightly smooth treble.

 

Just a suggestion (though I am defensive over my BA200), have you tried them with the stock double flange tips?? The treble is still smooth but for me, surely more in quantity and in extension. I find comply tips to be overly attenuating the treble with the IEMs I've had them with. They made by Brainwavz B2 sound somewhat dark which is actually hy I bought my BA200, smooth but still present treble. Just my 89 centavos :D Try the foam tips on your brighter IEMs!!

post #709 of 827

subscribed, very interesting thread

post #710 of 827
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Originally Posted by kimvictor View Post

Ha! Just to make everyone jealous, I went down to earphone shop in Korea, and demoed customs. Tried JH16FP(again), Rooth LS8/+, Rooth LS5X, ES5, UE18, UM Miracle, and UM Merlin. Kind of pissed that they didn't have UERM for demo, but more customs I hear, more I appreciate my UERM. Out of the ones I've tried, UE18 was probably my fav. It was like UERM, but with more bass.

So, out of the ones I listed and UERM, here's my list just based on my preference.
UERM-UE18-JH16-LS8-Miracle-LS8+-LS5X-Merlin-ES5

TBH, when I first heard the ES5, I was like WTF. It sounded so congested when compared to UERM and JH16 that I was comparing it to. The mids were sweet and thick, but it sounded muddy and congested. Sorry for any ES5 fans. They are just not my cup of tea. Also, two hybrids are low in my chart because they had too much emphasis on bass, and I just prefer BA bass.

So conclusion? I still love my UERM, but I wouldn't mind a UE18 for a change. I guess little more bass won't hurt.
Interesting, I thought the LS8+ was a true improvement over LS8.
post #711 of 827
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Interesting, I thought the LS8+ was a true improvement over LS8.

It was just based on my preference. Technically speaking, I do find the LS8+ to be better.

post #712 of 827
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Originally Posted by Grayson73 View Post

Update:

Zero Audio Carbo Tenore > TDK BA200 > Monster Gratitude >  VSonic GR07 MK2 > Zero Audio Carbo Basso > NuForce NE-700X > Hifiman RE-400 > MEElectronics A161p > Audio Technica ATH-CKN70 > Philips SHE3590 > Hifiman RE2


IEM comparison
 
TDK BA200 (stock comply tips).
VSonic GR07 MK2 (largest stock purple tips)
Monster Gratitude (Meelectronics double flanged tips)
Zero Audio Carbo Tenore (Meelectronics double flanged tips)
Zero Audio Carbo Basso (Meelectronics double flanged tips)
HiFiman RE400 (Meelectronics double flanged tips)
 
Music preferences:  Rock and Pop.  
 
Treble:  Gratitude and GR07 MK2 sound the brightest, then Tenore, then Basso, then BA200.  I think the RE400 is equal to the Gratitude/GR07 MK2 or Tenore,  but don't recall exactly.  I found that the Gratitude was tuned too high (e.g. snare drums sound too bright).  BA200 treble is too smooth and not enough quantity.  Tenore is my favorite in this category because they aren't as smooth as BA200 and not as harsh as Gratitude/GR07 MK2.
 
Mids:   For vocals, the best are Tenore and BA200.  Female vocals sound like they are in the room singing to you and are so buttery; gives me chills.  I give a slight edge to Tenore because they sound more airy.  Gratitudes are clear but singer sounds farther away.
 
Bass:  My favorite in this category is the Gratitude.  In terms of quantity, Basso > Gratitude > Tenore > BA200=GR07 MK2 > RE400.  However, I found the Basso to have too much bass and not as good mids.  Gratitude has the best quality bass.  For my tastes, Gratitude and Tenore have the quantity that I desire.  Tenore bass hits hard enough and is punchy.  Bassos have too much and BA200, GR07 MK2, and RE400 have too little.
 
Detail:  GR07 MK2 and Gratitude have the most detail (and maybe RE400), then Tenore and Basso then BA200.
 
Efficiency:  GR07 MK2 is the most efficient, then Gratitude, BA200, Tenore/Basso.  Don't have the RE400 any longer to compare.
 
My favorite is the Tenore because they sound the most natural and true to life and they have the combination and quantity of bass/mid/treble that I desire.  Female vocals give me chills and have the most texture.  Next would be BA200 (smooth and great mids) and Gratitude (big and energetic).  Basso has too much bass and GR07 MK2 and RE400 had too little bass and sounded a little boring.
 
 

Improvements to my favorite 4 that I would love to find
 
Tenore: Would like slightly darker tuning (but not as dark as BA200), and bass quality of the Gratitude
BA200:  Would like more bass, more treble extension.
Gratitude:  Love the bass quantity and quality, detail, and treble extension.  Wish they were tuned darker so that they would sound more natural and true to life.  Snare drums too bright sounding.
GR07 MK2:  Would like more bass (maybe I'd like the Bass Edition?)

 
Tenore is close to perfect, but would love to find one with incredible vocals, have life-like tuning, quality bass and decent quantity bass, and detailed, but slightly smooth treble.
Wow are the monster gratitude really that good. With more detail then the re400 I'm really curious about this as I'm the biggest detail junkie I think. Lol but seriously I love listening to my re400's manly because of the detail. And specially for the price. Thank you smily_headphones1.gif
post #713 of 827
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Wow are the monster gratitude really that good. With more detail then the re400 I'm really curious about this as I'm the biggest detail junkie I think. Lol but seriously I love listening to my re400's manly because of the detail. And specially for the price. Thank you smily_headphones1.gif

I didn't say the Gratitude had more detail than the RE400; I said they were probably the same, but I didn't A/B since I don't have the RE400 any longer.

post #714 of 827
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Originally Posted by Grayson73 View Post

I didn't say the Gratitude had more detail than the RE400; I said they were probably the same, but I didn't A/B since I don't have the RE400 any longer.
sorry that's what I kinda meant.. Even if they have they same amount then hell I want to try them..
post #715 of 827

Right now the Senn IE800 destroys everything else I have, and am sure it will be like that for some time to come...

 

They just keep getting better :)

post #716 of 827

In order liked most to liked least:

Monster Gratitude/Yao Solar

HiFiMan RE400

Yamaha EPH-100

Monster Diesel (but only with replacement tips)

Samsung HS-330 (UE tips)

Moxpad X3/Sony MH1/LG Quadbeat/Philips SHE3590

LG Quadbeat 2

Samsung HS-330 (small MeElec triple flange tips)

MeElec M6P

Shure SE115

Shure SE102k/E2C

Ultimate Ears Super.Fi 4

Sony EX100

Sony EX10

Samsung HS-330 (stock tips)

Severe Tinnitus

Nails on a chalkboard

Justin Bieber song printed out, wrapped on a brick and thrown through my front window

Grado iGi

Ultimate Ears UE200

post #717 of 827
"Justin Bieber song printed out, wrapped on a brick and thrown through my front window"

Lol
post #718 of 827
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"Justin Bieber song printed out, wrapped on a brick and thrown through my front window"

Lol

 

And the iGis are still worse.

post #719 of 827
Oh I believe you. From what others have described, the Grado sig is upfront with no stage. Couple that along with their inexperience in IEMs spells disaster.
post #720 of 827
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Originally Posted by SyCo87 View Post

Oh I believe you. From what others have described, the Grado sig is upfront with no stage. Couple that along with their inexperience in IEMs spells disaster.

I see what you did that, a BELIEVER??? :blink:

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