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post #16 of 100
B&W is popular, I'll give them that, but they aren't great speakers as they don't measure incredibly well nor sound better than offerings from most vendors on Audiocircle, let alone everywhere else. For the prices charged, you'd expect better quality components and a better sound. That's all...they don't sound terrible...they look nice (for the most part), but they're not a good value IMHO. Maybe they offer better valued products since I last checked, can't say for certain. I've heard many in the past, were unimpressed and also am aware of electrolytic caps in the signal path in previous crossovers (maybe they still do, don't know for certain). That's a no-no.
post #17 of 100

I cast my vote for B&W loudspeakers being good

I have a pair of 803s and they sound great with a Lavardin IT. The external build quality is excellent. I havn't opened them up to check the parts.

Curious about the P5s. Just be careful bidding blind someplace, B&W used to offer a P5 loudspeaker, sometime back in the 90s (maybe earlier?)
post #18 of 100
I don't think they look very nice

"earpads crafted from the finest quality New Zealand sheep's leather" - Looks like they're not going to be cheap.
post #19 of 100
I can't really tell from the pictures, but it looks like you'll be able to swap ear pads and cable. One on-the-ear for portable use and one over-the-ear for home use... could that be right?
post #20 of 100
If you look here, you can actually see that the cable is replaceable.
post #21 of 100
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Originally Posted by anetode View Post
Hot.

I hope they're not OEM sourced

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Wow, I'm mortified
Is this really the crossover for my speakers B&W 703?

"You have some great headphone gear!!"
post #22 of 100

Bennic crossovers

I'm enjoying this;
looking at the picture you can see the name Bennic. A bit of searcing yields;
"Bennic & Company is one of the largest suppliers of crossover components in the world. Their quality products are associated with reputable brand names like:
BANG & OLUFSEN, DALI, ELTAX, HARMAN, DYNAUDIO, MISSION, CELESTION, WHARFEDALE, KEF, B+W, LINN, ROGERS, SONUS FABER, AUDAX, FOCAL, ELIPSON, CABASSE, T + A, INTERTECHNIK, HECO, ELAC, SOLEN, CANADIAN SPEAKERTECH, HI-VI, BOSTON ACOUSTICS, JBL / INFINITY, MC’INTOSH, MILLER & KRIELS, etcetera. "

What a mix!
post #23 of 100
Bennic are some of the cheapest caps out there and are not known for a good sound. For a budget-oriented speaker, a poly cap with a tight tolerance is the most important aspect....no electrolytics or having caps that are way out of spec. The thing is...B&W speakers are not inexpensive.

I think Bennic are rebranded under another name, as well, but I can't recall which at the moment...I think Solen is rebranded as Axon or something. If you're building a speaker and only have a couple hundred to spend, perhaps not the worst choice, I guess. But using electrolytic caps is probably the biggest issue.

Anyways...hope the side-tracked discussion doesn't anger anyone...there's not much info out there about these B&W headphones just yet anyways.
post #24 of 100
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Originally Posted by cujobob View Post
B&W is popular, I'll give them that, but they aren't great speakers as they don't measure incredibly well nor sound better than offerings from most vendors on Audiocircle, let alone everywhere else. For the prices charged, you'd expect better quality components and a better sound. That's all...they don't sound terrible...they look nice (for the most part), but they're not a good value IMHO. Maybe they offer better valued products since I last checked, can't say for certain. I've heard many in the past, were unimpressed and also am aware of electrolytic caps in the signal path in previous crossovers (maybe they still do, don't know for certain). That's a no-no.
I may purchase some bookshelfs later. Which brand, in your opinion, offer better value with quality components and build quality?? Thanks
post #25 of 100
All depends on what you want to spend and how large a room they're going in. Here are some fanastic values IMHO:

If you can DIY or pay someone to do it for you, GR-Research N2X or N1X are fantastic performers for under a grand. Gedlee Nathans and Abbeys are quite large for 'bookshelf' speakers, but their performance is absolutely amazing. They aren't the best looking speakers and their crossover parts are merely average...driver quality and waveguide quality is very high. Also, Econowave DIY speakers are inexpensive and sound fantastic.


Jim Salk's brand (Salk) has some excellent looking speakers with high quality parts and crossovers. Ascend Sierras are excellent performers for under $1,000...they have more inexpensive offerings if you want to spend less that are very difficult to beat for the price. Selah Audio is another great place to look as is Aether Audio (formerly SP Technology)

If you can spend more, obviously more options open up. There are plenty of good Internet Direct companies; mainstream like B&W, Klipsch, Paradigm, etc. usually have lesser quality components and their engineering is not better, like one would expect. The markups just take away all of their value. Check out the AudioCircle forums...plenty of good vendors there and you can ask as many questions as you like. Sorry this isn't the most coherent post...can't stop the music while forming thoughts..
post #26 of 100
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Well, at least they are not made out of cheap molded plastic. Oh, then again, I'm sure the use of sturdy metal is going to cause unwanted resonances. Where was the R&D people?
I am sure the R&D people will have taken the use of metal backs into account. The description of the product explains the closed back is for noise isolation, the cans are clearly made with MP3 player use in mind and the sound is described as neutral. So, pure mischevious speculation on your part and I will wait to audition first. Then, maybe we will agree!
post #27 of 100
This HP will cost 299 euro in Europe. Quite high for a closed HP imo.
post #28 of 100
Usher s520 amazing for the money
post #29 of 100
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Originally Posted by Cankin View Post
I may purchase some bookshelfs later. Which brand, in your opinion, offer better value with quality components and build quality?? Thanks
In the end, it's your own ears that should determine the sound quality, just like headphones, sound preference is completely individual

Grados are pretty poorly constructed IMO, and yet people keep buying them because of the sound. If I actually liked the sound too, I would still have mine (even though they looked like they were constructed in a high school workshop)

Personally, a speaker is often more than the sum of its parts. Sometimes a speaker may actually use a few off-the-shelf speaker parts, but the right cabinet design, tweaking of the crossover, can mean that the speaker sounds great. If the engineering and R&D behind them sweated the details to find the right "synergy" of parts and have the quality control to ensure each speaker leaves the factory at spec, that's all that really matters in the end. And then it has to pass the ultimate quality control test, my ears.
post #30 of 100
warpdriver: thanks for nice reply
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