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post #31 of 37
Yes it is, people who harp on that Win2k is superior to XP are going back to XP pre-SP1. I've used Win2k and it was a good OS but XP SP1/2 made it a clearly superior OS.
post #32 of 37
There's nothing wrong with XP Vista or 7. The best way to try an OS is to dual boot with it.
I decided to try 7 along with a RAM and video card upgrade. 2gb to 4gb Ram, and 8800 GT to GTX 275. Apparent performance in the Left4Dead2 demo is about the same on both OSs.

FWIW, I used Vista through RC2 then dumped it in favor of XP Pro, only because running Vista caused a gaming performance hit on the hardware I was running at the time.
post #33 of 37
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Now you're just trying to defend the operating system. These sorts of things are of interest to poorly educated users who they are more likely to effect (which I clearly stated). The issue with the list is that the protection mechanisms in 7 did nothing to stop these randomly selected viruses.

1. UAC is not doing its job.
UAC's job is to ensure the user has to give confirmation to change system settings. If the user still gives that confirmation, there's nothing it can do. UAC is not an anti-virus.
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2. Namedropping remote vulnerabilities has nothing to do with the above
-Win32/Conflicker A and Win32/IRCbot.BH affected 7 RC.
Conficker was patched in Windows before Conficker ever came out.
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VBootkit 2.0 can be used to sieze total control of a computer that has someone physically accessing it (whether they intend to or not).
Again, there are local exploits for every OS. You CANNOT prevent someone with local access from gaining access to a computer. Period. These mean NOTHING. Not a single thing.
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edit: Although you could coax an inexperienced user to activate remote desktop/assistance (which is an awful addition to windows)
Remote assistance requires a one-time session key to be communicated to the person connecting. Again, social engineering is not something an OS can defend against. Remote Assistance is a fantastic addition that makes IT workers' lives much easier.
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and computers will still execute malicious scripts on websites (which could install worms, backdoor trojans, whatever)
Not if you're running IE8, which runs at a protected level below even that of a normal process
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Just because experienced users will have a great time on 7 doesnt mean that the inexperienced users should be ignored. Their computer security is comprimised in 7 vs vista because of the scalebacks of default settings.
Due to overwhelming demand by users.
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Pedantic semantics are childish, as is your 'challenge'. If you care so much go find one yourself Google is a great place to start.
It's not semantics. Do some research into computer security and you'll do the same thing.

Just for the benefit of everyone else: MrGreen was already called out for the troll he is in the "Windows 7 is Awesome" thread for statements such as claiming he could "see" by using the OS that the kernel hadn't changed. Real expert, there.
post #34 of 37
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Just yesterday the ATI driver on my Thinkpad locked up while I was in the middle of a difficult part of my physics homework and I would have had some data loss if I had been using XP.

Also, the new start menu offers a huge increase in productivity for me. If I want to start, say, Altera Quartus II I can hit the windows key, type "alt", and hit enter. Much easier than navigating the terrible XP start menu IMO.

Stick with XP if the above doesn't bother you, upgrade if you value stability.
I uninstalled system restore last year because I never used it. Every crash I've ever had since about 2004/05 has been hardware related, even the computer I'm using now has both side panels off because the power supply was overheating.

I'm still not seeing the problem with the XP start menu. If I had to open Altera Quartus II (which a quick google suggests would be work related), I'd click the start menua, hover/click on programs, hover/click on work then click Altera Quartus 2. I tried it just now with Excel (programs->office->excel), took about 1.5 seconds. I have maybe 150 programs organised into 20 folders and subfolders, the most commonly used 8 are shown immediately when I click start (plus 4 permanant above them).



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post #35 of 37
As of a few weeks ago I permanently migrated my XP/Vista pc's (both also purpose as HTPC's) on to Windows 7, and eventhough the changes aren't shocking, it's pretty darn sweet! I haven't really measured anything objectively, but the general feel of is one of stability.

I also had this feeling with XP too at first, but after some time it just seemed to start going downhill (nothing that a reinstall couldn't fix though), so I hope Win7 has improved on that point.

So far I like how it compares to my Snow Leopard Macbook as well, as both OS'es seem to have borrowed a lot from each other.
post #36 of 37
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As of a few weeks ago I permanently migrated my XP/Vista pc's (both also purpose as HTPC's) on to Windows 7, and eventhough the changes aren't shocking, it's pretty darn sweet! I haven't really measured anything objectively, but the general feel of is one of stability.

I also had this feeling with XP too at first, but after some time it just seemed to start going downhill (nothing that a reinstall couldn't fix though), so I hope Win7 has improved on that point.

So far I like how it compares to my Snow Leopard Macbook as well, as both OS'es seem to have borrowed a lot from each other.
If it compares to Vista, the stability should be maintained. I ran Vista for a full year with zero issues while I would have wiped an XP box 2-3 times in that same period. I'd still be running on the same Vista install if it weren't for 7.
post #37 of 37
I've had Vista running as main OS on my living room HTPC box as well (mainly because of the EVR ability), but only for about 6 months and then Win7 came out.

During those months I've had no problems either, so by the looks of it I'm gonna be running these Win7 installs for quite some time
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