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post #346 of 523

Out of the box they're a bit bassy and I'm pretty surprised at the detail these bring out at $30; but with EQ they sound so much better.


I EQ'ed them to bring the mids and treble a bit forward and they sound much more balanced and smoothed out.

post #347 of 523
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Originally Posted by bisayaboi View Post

Out of the box they're a bit bassy and I'm pretty surprised at the detail these bring out at $30; but with EQ they sound so much better.


I EQ'ed them to bring the mids and treble a bit forward and they sound much more balanced and smoothed out.


I agree, fantastic for the price and as they burn in (in my ears and in my head), they're opening up a little more.  The highs and mids are noticably more present than a few hours ago.  I'll let these run overnight and see how much of a change they go through.  Bang for the buck is what these are all about.
 

post #348 of 523

I used them for sprinting today (which was my purpose for these headphones) and I must say these things are simply superb.

 

With EQ these can definitely compete with $50-70 IEM's and the comfort and build is so great. Literally no microphonics at all either.

 

These are definitely king of the $30-40 price point IEM's.

post #349 of 523

After reading all these comments praising the M6 for their awesomeness.... I'm a little worried that mine might be fake or defective (bought in recent sale from buy.com). I mean they sound ok, but not amazing imo. I was surprised when I compared them to my portapros. The PP's sounded better in every area (well, maybe on par in highs). I really thought the M6 would be better but not so... Is this normal? Am I expecting too much from them? Would those sony hybrid tips help maybe?

post #350 of 523
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Originally Posted by 11amaberry View Post

After reading all these comments praising the M6 for their awesomeness.... I'm a little worried that mine might be fake or defective (bought in recent sale from buy.com). I mean they sound ok, but not amazing imo. I was surprised when I compared them to my portapros. The PP's sounded better in every area (well, maybe on par in highs). I really thought the M6 would be better but not so... Is this normal? Am I expecting too much from them? Would those sony hybrid tips help maybe?


I think you had certain expectations or perhaps your gear doesn't synergize well.  To get the best out of the M6 I think EQ is called for and for a $20 IEM I don't think that's unreasonable.  Stock they show they can do clarity, treble sparkle and bass.  EQ to bring up the mids and tame the rest makes them sound pretty good for the price.  I personally thought the Portapro was okay but not amazing at all either.  I think its expectations based on hype.  I'm sure the DDM and SM3 were the same for me.

post #351 of 523

I'll try EQ'ing them. And the synergy thing is true too, I don't really like them out of my iphone 3g, but much better coming from my udac. Of course, udac>iphone3g.

post #352 of 523

Would anybody mind sharing their EQ settings? I've got a Rockboxed Clip+ but I don't really know where to start.

post #353 of 523
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Originally Posted by Syrn View Post

Would anybody mind sharing their EQ settings? I've got a Rockboxed Clip+ but I don't really know where to start.


EQ settings depend alot upon preference as much as improving technical ability. For instance, if you're missing some bass slam, you could up them by a few decibels @70Hz. Or if you want to bring forward the mids, increase at 3500Hz. The q value can then be used to modify the scope of said correction. That said, finding a good EQ can be a long and difficult process sometimes, so I can absolutely sympathize. It would definitely be nice to find a headfier with similar preferences to your own, so that you have a starting point for EQing.

 

Here is a link to a frequency chart of various instruments. Maybe it will help you find a better value.

post #354 of 523
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Originally Posted by ljokerl View Post

The seller that stocked them in the past seems to have stopped selling electronics and related items. 

 


 


Dang, okay... Isn't there any other place I could get them at? I just received my M6's, they fit great, I like that triple flange thingy as well as the "regular" medium sized tip, but I'm a big fan of foam and would really like to try those Vsonics that a lot of people seemed to like in this thread...

 

They seem to be really hard to find, even on google... What do they look like? What color etc

 

 

post #355 of 523

They look exactly like Soundmagic PL50 foamhybrid tips. In fact, Soundmagic PL50/PL21 foamies might fit on the M6 - maybe someone who still owns both can confirm. You may be able to pick up a set of PL50 tips on the sale forum here if someone who bought a PL50 doesn't use them.

 

The alternative would be to buy some Shure Olives, take out the plastic core, and stick the foam on a rubber core from a stock Meelec tip. This would be somewhat labor-intensive (maybe 15 mins of work) but probably the most satisfying.

post #356 of 523
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Originally Posted by Anaxilus View Post




I think you had certain expectations or perhaps your gear doesn't synergize well.  To get the best out of the M6 I think EQ is called for and for a $20 IEM I don't think that's unreasonable.  Stock they show they can do clarity, treble sparkle and bass.  EQ to bring up the mids and tame the rest makes them sound pretty good for the price.  I personally thought the Portapro was okay but not amazing at all either.  I think its expectations based on hype.  I'm sure the DDM and SM3 were the same for me.

That's exactly what I did and they sound awesome.

 

Here's my EQ on Mixzing media player (a third party player from the Android Marketplace)

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** Edit:

I changed the settings. Treble was too much try EQ'ing your M6 around this idea:

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Edited by bisayaboi - 10/21/10 at 2:57pm
post #357 of 523

Guys, I need some help... I'm gonna order some Shure yellow foamies, I've tried them before on my Cresyn C750E's and they're the most comfortable foamies I've ever tried.

 

These are the ones I bought for my Cresyn's: http://cgi.ebay.com/Shure-Genuine-Foam-Inserts-SCL3-SCL4-SCL5-Earphones-/170544796358?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27b54312c6

 

The hole/tunnel/whatever was really small, so they fit the Cresyns perfectly. However, the "tunnel" on the M6's is much larger, so I doubt they'll fit. Does anyone know if the M6 has a similar "tunnel size" as the Shure E1/E2/E3/E4/E5 ? I've looked at some pics and it definitely looks like the "tunnel" is bigger, but I don't know if the size is right or if they're too big or something... Does anyone know anything about this?

 

These are the ones I'm interested in, if the size is right:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Shure-Replacement-Foam-Inserts-E1-E3-E4-E5-Per-Pair-/360304105207?pt=Other_MP3_Player_Accessories&hash=item53e3cc56f7

http://cgi.ebay.com/Shure-Foam-Inserts-SE-E3c-E4c-E5c-E500-i3c-i4c-/400157715758?pt=Other_MP3_Player_Accessories&hash=item5d2b422d2e

 

I think the holes should be larger, but the seller is just using the same photo of the yellow foamies. I found some orange foamies from the same seller, they're supposed to be for the E2's like those other foamies, but the hole is larger: http://cgi.ebay.com/Shure-E2-Ear-Foam-Inserts-Small-Med-Large-per-Pair-/400159474771?pt=Other_MP3_Player_Accessories&hash=item5d2b5d0453

post #358 of 523

Thanks for the help on the EQ. As expected, I really had to play around for quite a while before I found a setting I was pleased with (perfectionist here). I think I came off as not knowing anything but I wanted to add that I do have a decent background in mixing, a good ear and run the mixing board for an outdoor theater in the summer.

 

Settings for Rockbox Clip+
  Gain (dB) Cutoff (Hz) Q Reason
Low Shelf Filter -2.0 50 1.4 Reduce boominess
Peak Filter 1 3.0 3000 1.0 Add clarity to voice
Peak Filter 2 -2.0 7100 2.8 Reduce sibilance
Peak Filter 3 2.0 10000 1.0 Brighten vocals
High Shelf Filter N/A N/A N/A  

(used Precut of -1.0 db, not sure if necessary)

 

Articles I used for reference (in order of helpfulness):

http://www.recordingwebsite.com/articles/eqprimer.php A MUST READ!!!

http://www.digitalprosound.com/2002/03_mar/tutorials/mixing_excerpt1.htm

http://www.recordingeq.com/EQ/req0400/OctaveEQ.htm

http://www.ethanwiner.com/equalizers.html

 

P.S. This is still a work in progress but I wanted some feedback if anyone tries it out. I'm not completely set on all the Gain, but I'm pretty set on the cutoff frequencies (except maybe playing with the sibilance freq). Only Q I'm not completely set on is for the LS Filter. Any questions warmly welcomed smily_headphones1.gif

post #359 of 523

Nice work there. I'll be quite interested in seeing what your finalized EQ settings end up being. For reference though, at what volumes do you typically listen to music at? Or at least generally, say 'average', 'quiet', 'loud', etc.

post #360 of 523
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Originally Posted by JxK View Post

Nice work there. I'll be quite interested in seeing what your finalized EQ settings end up being. For reference though, at what volumes do you typically listen to music at? Or at least generally, say 'average', 'quiet', 'loud', etc.

To be exact, on my Clip+ I typically listen to the volume at -20 which I'd say is average level. On the subway, I have to raise the volume a bit to compensate, and may have it up to -10. I have tried boosting the volume very loud up to see if it still sounds good, and I think it does. At high volumes sibilance becomes more present, and the crash cymbals and snare can become more fatiguing. I wish Rockbox had more bands on the equalizer, at one point I was using 5500 Hz to remove some of the "cymbal noise".

 

Thanks for your feedback btw. It's greatly appreciated and helps me to think of new ideas!


Edited by Syrn - 10/23/10 at 9:39pm
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