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Would you help me? What to buy: Ultrasone 780 vs ATH-M50?

post #1 of 17
10/31/09 at 1:16pm
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Hey,
I've narrowed down the list from my previus thread to just thease 2 headphones.

I have great cans for instrumental music (Alessandro MS1), so I'd like to have another, different pair, to listen to electronic music, like (instrumental) hip-hop, trip-hop or IDM.

I'd like to have:
# detailed, strong bass, going down deep
# no harsh highs
# rather warm signature

I have no way to check how they sound on my own, as there's no shop with them around me.

Feel free to ask me whatever you need
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post #2 of 17
10/31/09 at 6:56pm
I have the M50s and love them. That said, I would if your budget allows go with the Ultrasone. Is this just anti-fanboyism? Or belated buyers regret?

Do you have an amp? M50 is not terribly amp-dependent, between running off Cowon D2, Nuforce Icon Mobile, and Little Dot I+ it is pretty much equal.
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post #3 of 17
10/31/09 at 7:35pm
I'd go 780 between the 2 although they can have harsh highs and aren't what I would call warm sounding... perhaps the Sony XB500 would suit you better; very good deep and detailed bass, highs take a step back so you are left with a warm sound. Bonus being you can listen to them in the Sony store with your own music and buy them online for $50!
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post #4 of 17
10/31/09 at 7:44pm
I might be wrong, but I head the 780 need a good amp to make it shine.
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post #5 of 17
10/31/09 at 7:50pm
I very much like the A700 for electronica. There's a bass punch, and then there's highs that aren't harsh, but are present unlike in the MS1.

I don't know if the M50 shares the A700's sound signature.
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post #6 of 17
11/1/09 at 2:04am
I voted for the ATH-M50, mainly because they are more versatile, don't have occasionally harsh highs like the Ultrasone, the bass is strong but not overpowering like the Ultrasone, and they are more comfortable.
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post #7 of 17
11/1/09 at 3:14am
I have to agree with Graphicism. I'd definitely go with the HFI-780's. They meet two of your criteria (great strong, detailed, punchy bass and warm, forward sound signature), but their highs are considered harsh by some. Me personally, I don't find them that harsh to my ears, and considering that you're coming from MS-1's, I don't think they should bother you much at all. I listen to predominantly hiphop/RnB/rock (acoustic/alternative/indie/classic/etc.), and they're amazing for all of these genres. And FWIR, they're great for electronica, too, and highly recommended for that genre around here. They're definitely a step up from my A900's and just as easy to drive.
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post #8 of 17
11/1/09 at 12:58pm
Thread Starter 
LeftyGorilla, I use (depending on where I am) Prodigy 7.1 Hifi headphones output (there's HPs amp there) or Luxman L-230 HPs output.

Graphicism, thease Sony's are not my kind of looks, and I don't think the SQ is as good as in Ultrasone or AT.

priest, I think I want to have stronger bass than eg. in Koss UR29, maybe in terms of strenght something like Senn's CX300 II.

Fenghoang, thank you, your opinion helped me
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post #9 of 17
11/14/09 at 3:03pm
Thread Starter 
Do you think Klipsch Image S4 would suit me?
They're cheaper and more portable
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post #10 of 17
11/14/09 at 8:04pm
i have had the 780 and have the m50.
the 780 has better mids and highs, but slightly. the bass is nice but not too strong. the 780 is not very comfy and thats the reason i sold them.
the m50 is capable of more bass, and has a warmer sound overall. bigger earcups and deeper pads make it more comfy. the m50 has a larger soundstage
keep in mind i didnt have these at the same time!
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post #11 of 17
11/14/09 at 8:59pm

Who knows where to download XRumer 5.0 Palladium?

Who knows where to download XRumer 5.0 Palladium?
Help, please. All recommend this program to effectively advertise on the Internet, this is the best program!
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post #12 of 17
11/14/09 at 9:13pm
FWIR...

Your stated preferences better describe the M-Audio Q40 and should eliminate the HFI780 and M50 from consideration.

Quote:
Originally Posted by lorafenik View Post
I'd like to have:
# detailed, strong bass, going down deep
# no harsh highs
# rather warm signature
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post #13 of 17
11/15/09 at 6:35pm
Thread Starter 
Fk, I'm stuck in paradox of choice.
And the more I know, the more I'm confused.
Now Im'm trying to choose between:
Beyerdynamic DT 231 (~~185PLN!!!)
Sennheiser HD 380 PRO (~~320PLN)
Klipsch Image S4 (~~340PLN)
Audio Technica ATH-M50 (~~600PLN)
Ultrasone HFI-780 (~~700PLN)

I'm getting more interested in thease cheaper HPs, what do you think about them?

pzdr
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post #14 of 17
11/21/09 at 10:25am
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Hey, please help me spend my students money in the best way ;]
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post #15 of 17
11/21/09 at 10:54am
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Originally Posted by lorafenik View Post
Hey, please help me spend my students money in the best way ;]
I dont know... Ive had many many high end headphones and have heard literally everything worth recommending on the market *went to canjam LA*. Once I started getting into Ultrasones I cant listen to anything else. S-Logic, be it a gimmick or not, certainly works for my ears. My vote, undoubtedly, goes to the HFI-780s. But, thats just my opinion, take it for what it's worth.
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