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post #451 of 18459
5/3/10 at 4:11pm
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Originally Posted by sachu View Post
Fact of life, if you can afford it you'll buy it. Else not.
Hmmmm......doubt that's their motto
post #452 of 18459
5/3/10 at 4:16pm
The price is pretty disappointing!

There was a lot of talk from the time of their announcement and prototype introduction that they were going to be a direct competitor to the HE-5s and at the time it sort of seemed like an apples vs. oranges sort of fight where one had a more forward approach and the other was more laid back and it would come down to personal preference for which you chose... Now it's like apples vs. gold plated organic moon watermelons.

Like most folks made mention here, the price has taken me from the "I WANT FIRST BATCH OMG" wagon to the "You buy it first" backseat position. I still have high hopes, but it has changed markets now and I hope the boys at Audeze realize this and have taken every measure to combat their new headphone giant rivals like Sennheiser, Ultrasone, Beyer, AKG and Stax.

Of course, it's not too late to knock a few bucks off!
post #453 of 18459
5/3/10 at 4:19pm
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Originally Posted by Pyriel0 View Post
I always figured these were going to be a bargain headphone with high quality sound, not just another $1k+ headphone.

After messing around with damping/magnet set up/other mods on my old t20 ortho, I understand that an open backed ortho with a good sized diaphragm would sound really good ... but for $1k I would rather try stax. The price puts it into the elite class whereas at lesser price they would have been the headphone to buy. For $1k there are many other things to consider now.

And now what is going to make it even harder to get good info is that only the ortho fanatics seem to be in favor of this = they will be the only ones giving reviews which will fotm it even more.
Stax is good, but why would you rather try stax?
The point here is to take magnaplanar technology to the high end and compete or beat what Stax have to offer, but with the convenience of not being tied down to electrostatic equiptment.
Also Stax top end headphone is around $2.5k without factoring in pricey stax amp (and personally i need reasonable amounts of bass, so the lower priced stax arent much of an appeal to me)

Btw the Fostex T50v1 would have been about $870 today accounting for inflation from 1979, and that was a plastic housing, mass made Japanese phone.


As for the ortho fotm, I guess we will have to wait and see when owners impressions come through later this month. Consider this, the HE-5 with its faults and all was considered by many to be one of the finest headphones, in the league of HD800 or better.
From the tiny impressions we have heard so far, the LCD2 might be better.
The HE5LE we are waiting on impressions too.

So as far as I see this is only a good thing for the headphone world. I will reserve final opinion on whether orthodynamic or electrostatic is better sounding untill a while down the line (except to say I think both are superior to dynamic headphones, and both hold unique qualties over each other).
post #454 of 18459
5/3/10 at 4:22pm
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Originally Posted by sachu View Post
<snip> The LCD-2 oozes quality construction all over. Everything (yes yes other than the headband foam) is high quality materials and the result of sound engineering (pun intended). <snip> Given all its great sonic abilities and its features, I am actually happy to see they managed to price it at under 1k$, considering it is made in the USA. None of that flaky stuff that usually lands on our coasts from the East. You just can't expect a MADE IN CHINA price for a hand built unit that is MADE IN THE USA.
Very good points Sachu, and if they just get a suede/leather cover on the damn headband, I'll quit my bitchin'.
post #455 of 18459
5/3/10 at 4:25pm
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Originally Posted by Kabeer View Post
So as far as I see this is only a good thing for the headphone world.
Would be even better at $699!
Okay, sorry I'm done.
post #456 of 18459
5/3/10 at 4:26pm
I just prefer the impact of my k1000 to the smoothness of ortho's, hence the trying stax if I'm going to drop a grand on something smooth sounding. Personally my hopes lie in the transmission audio headphone amt now.
post #457 of 18459
5/3/10 at 4:31pm
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Originally Posted by BoilermakerFan View Post
Very good points Sachu, and if they just get a suede/leather cover on the damn headband, I'll quit my bitchin'.
LMAO, ok I just mailed audeze. Asked about the headband, and they say its not normal foam, its a v.high quality one they searched a long while for and is v.durable. It is also replaceable if it comes to it.
It was specifically chosen for comfort issues to make it more comfy than leather headbands.

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Originally Posted by tim3320070 View Post
Would be even better at $699!
Okay, sorry I'm done.
LOL ahaa . Indeed i think everyone would prefer any pricey headphone at $699 .

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Originally Posted by Pyriel0 View Post
I just prefer the impact of my k1000 to the smoothness of ortho's, hence the trying stax if I'm going to drop a grand on something smooth sounding. Personally my hopes lie in the transmission audio headphone amt now.
Stax arent generally known for "impact"....maybe 404LE with V>powerful amping..
You mean the RAAL ribbon? i wouldnt hold my breath on their pricing, im going to guess at LEAST $2k.... But thats just a guess going by RAAL's normal league. If they are indeed less than $1k then ROCK ON , i will be exited too.
edit: my mistake you wernt talking about RAAL?
post #458 of 18459
5/3/10 at 4:33pm
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Originally Posted by tim3320070 View Post
Hmmmm......doubt that's their motto
Never said that was their motto...but it still holds true. Else one could question the same about the Stax O2 or BHSE. If people find them worth their price they'll buy it assuming they can afford it.

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Originally Posted by Landis View Post
The price is pretty disappointing!

There was a lot of talk from the time of their announcement and prototype introduction that they were going to be a direct competitor to the HE-5s and at the time it sort of seemed like an apples vs. oranges sort of fight where one had a more forward approach and the other was more laid back and it would come down to personal preference for which you chose... Now it's like apples vs. gold plated organic moon watermelons.

Like most folks made mention here, the price has taken me from the "I WANT FIRST BATCH OMG" wagon to the "You buy it first" backseat position. I still have high hopes, but it has changed markets now and I hope the boys at Audeze realize this and have taken every measure to combat their new headphone giant rivals like Sennheiser, Ultrasone, Beyer, AKG and Stax.

Of course, it's not too late to knock a few bucks off!
Sure this was back when they were about ready to release it at the time of RMAF. clearly there has been much rework and redesign since then. I think if they were indeed a headphone manufacturing giant like AKG, Beyer etc they would have been able to drop the price significantly. And again, can we stop with the price comparision between a product made in China as against one made here in the USA.
This kind of comparison really makes me wonder being an Indian why there is such a hullabaloo over outsourcing jobs when clearly folks in the west are addicted to having cheap prices on goods.
post #459 of 18459
5/3/10 at 4:33pm
I'd like to try the headband on before saying it needs leather on it. The LCD-2 is a bit heavy, so something that breathes, like good foam, could be a very good idea.
post #460 of 18459
5/3/10 at 4:35pm
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Originally Posted by DefectiveAudioComponent View Post
I'd like to try the headband on before saying it needs leather on it. The LCD-2 is a bit heavy, so something that breathes, like good foam, could be a very good idea.
Honestly, the headband is really comfortable. I think the objection to using foam on a high end headphone and questions as to its durability is what has irked a few people here. Comfort wise, they are quite good.
post #461 of 18459
5/3/10 at 4:39pm
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Originally Posted by sachu View Post
Sure this was back when they were about ready to release it at the time of RMAF. clearly there has been much rework and redesign since then. I think if they were indeed a headphone manufacturing giant like AKG, Beyer etc they would have been able to drop the price significantly.
Lol, i would bet the HD800 and T1 cost like 1/3rd amount the LCD2 would to make. These manufacturers are the ones truly playing on the 'high end' label.
post #462 of 18459
5/3/10 at 4:51pm
The T1 is hand made in Germany. I wouldn't exactly call any $1000 headphone mass produced.

I see absolutely no problem with them charging $1000. It shouldn't matter where or how a headphone is made, if people buy them at $1000, then they are worth $1000.
post #463 of 18459
5/3/10 at 4:59pm
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The T1 is hand made in Germany. I wouldn't exactly call any $1000 headphone mass produced.

I see absolutely no problem with them charging $1000. It shouldn't matter where or how a headphone is made, if people buy them at $1000, then they are worth $1000.
Ok my mistake. Then yup german manufacturing will make it a bit pricier than i said.
End of the day I think its the performance that will be the decider.
We will have to wait for people to post impressions. So far the two impressions (dBel84 and Kwarth) have looked good. Lets see how continues.
post #464 of 18459
5/3/10 at 5:10pm
hey, on the bright side, now I'm not going to have to live with only one kidney
post #465 of 18459
5/3/10 at 5:18pm
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Originally Posted by pyramid6 View Post
The T1 is hand made in Germany. I wouldn't exactly call any $1000 headphone mass produced.

I see absolutely no problem with them charging $1000. It shouldn't matter where or how a headphone is made, if people buy them at $1000, then they are worth $1000.
On the other hand, the T1 now belongs in the Above $1000 category as the price went back up to MSRP of $1300!

Oh money, I wish I had so much more of you.
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