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post #181 of 18459
@Don,
I'm looking forward to comparing notes with you on the LCD-2's, and particularly when powered by your amps!!
Cheers!
k
post #182 of 18459
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Great impressions Kwarth!
Those metaphors of digital artifacting vs real life are actually something I was discussing with Wualta some time back when talking to him about magnaplanar technology.

To me there is a richness and naturalness in a good magnaplanar that dynamics dont achieve (and from my limited Stat experience, they get close but are missing a bit of the richness).

From the v.few impressions so far it seems Audeze has managed to tame the technology and bring it with such an open back (it seems only HiFiMan are the others who have got close too). I really hope it is all it's promised to be. Im gonna grab one
post #183 of 18459
very interesting!

Hopefully this will be a good planar for bassheads like me...
post #184 of 18459
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very interesting!

Hopefully this will be a good planar for bassheads like me...

A true basshead may be happier with a D-5000, but if you're looking for the absolute real thing, the LCD-2 may be where you end up.

BTW, while I'm thinking about it, I wanted to mention that the bass of the LCD-2, while punchier and slightly more balanced than that of the LDC-1, still goes as deep as the music allows. There seems to be no bottom limit to the bass response of these babies.

Look at the FR curve of the LCD-2's:

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4008/4548249105_369eb7a692.jpg

post #185 of 18459
This thread needs PICS!
post #186 of 18459
Interesting to know if the LCD-2 perform better in lower department than the HE-5. Can't wait for more details. Thanks for the impression.
post #187 of 18459
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This thread needs PICS!


Would it be looks more or less like this?

post #188 of 18459
What equipment are you two using the LCD-2's with?
post #189 of 18459
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A true basshead may be happier with a D-5000, but if you're looking for the absolute real thing, the LCD-2 may be where you end up.

BTW, while I'm thinking about it, I wanted to mention that the bass of the LCD-2, while punchier and slightly more balanced than that of the LDC-1, still goes as deep as the music allows. There seems to be no bottom limit to the bass response of these babies.

Look at the FR curve of the LCD-2's:

Holy sh*tballs!! that is just something else for an open back ortho.
post #190 of 18459
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Would it be looks more or less like this?
More like that than it looks like a Sennheiser for instance .
It's changed a bit now (still a woody) and looks cooler I think. V.cool in fact. (hopefully Audeze posts it tomorrow on their site).

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Holy sh*tballs!! that is just something else for an open back ortho.
Indeed, looks mighty impressive!!
post #191 of 18459
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They exhibit so much less distortion, that it's as if someone opened the window for the first time. That's what listening to the LCD-2's make me think of when I listen to them. They don't call attention to themselves, they call attention to the music. The LCD-2's simply get out of the way and let you hear what was recorded, nothing added, nothing removed.
Hi Kevin,
Glad to see you are still posting. I am so glad they retained this trait that the LCD-1 had too.
post #192 of 18459
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Hi Kevin,
Glad to see you are still posting. I am so glad they retained this trait that the LCD-1 had too.
Thanks Sachu. The LDC-2s have 97% of all the goodness of the LCD-1s, and the LCD-1s have about 85% of the goodness of the LCD-2s of that helps you formulate a comparison in your head.
post #193 of 18459
I am not understanding how these are being talked up soo much if everything above 1.5khz is dropped 6-10 db.
post #194 of 18459
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I am not understanding how these are being talked up soo much if everything above 1.5khz is dropped 6-10 db.
That's a very perceptive question you have there!

In short, the human hearing system free field response is not "flat".

When you're listening to a concert at the local concert hall, for example, what you're hearing is "colored" by the acoustic effect of the physical structure of your face, outer ear and ear canal. The acoustic shadow cast by your pinna, for example creates a notch in the frequency response as perceived by your brain. This notch, both in depth and placement in the spectrum, is then integrated by your brain to create the psychoacoustic perception of placement of said sound. Vertical, lateral, and depth in the z-axis is all derived by your brain's ability to integrate and process the placement of this acoustic notch in each ear relative to the other.

The dip you see in the FR chart beginning at above 2kHz, is an approximation of this effect. When one listens to headphones, the sound is basically bypassing all of one's external physical attributes and being directly injected into your ear canal. Without an approximation of this notch being designed into the headphone's frequency response, the sound that one perceived from the headphone would be artificially bright and otherwise "off the mark."

The relative phase and amplitude, as well as frequency contour of what each ear hears is used by the brain to perceive direction and distance of a sound.
This is why headphone design is a wonderful collaboration of art and science, as no two people hear exactly alike, but we hear similarly.
post #195 of 18459
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That's a very perceptive question you have there!

In short, the human hearing system free field response is not "flat".

When you're listening to a concert at the local concert hall, for example, what you're hearing is "colored" by the acoustic effect of the physical structure of your face, outer ear and ear canal. The acoustic shadow cast by your pinna, for example creates a notch in the frequency response as perceived by your brain. This notch, both in depth and placement in the spectrum, is then integrated by your brain to create the psychoacoustic perception of placement of said sound. Vertical, lateral, and depth in the z-axis is all derived by your brain's ability to integrate and process the placement of this acoustic notch in each ear relative to the other.

The dip you see in the FR chart beginning at above 2kHz, is an approximation of this effect. When one listens to headphones, the sound is basically bypassing all of one's external physical attributes and being directly injected into your ear canal. Without an approximation of this notch being designed into the headphone's frequency response, the sound that one perceived from the headphone would be artificially bright and otherwise "off the mark."

This is why headphone design is a wonderful collaboration of art and science, as no two people hear exactly alike, but we hear similarly.
= it sounds pretty good.
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