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post #106 of 18459
11/14/09 at 11:40pm
I thought that the bass was very comparable between the two. For me, the Audeze had a bit more bass while the HE5 seemed to have a bit more impact. I didn't notice a big change in the low end between amps but small things like that are always difficult to hear in a meet environment. The only amps that I put any time on were the CK2III, a 3 ch. Beta and the big headroom balanced one.

I was listening at one amp and switching phones every once in a while, and the phones are very close to eachother overall in terms of performance. If I had to liken it to something else in the phone world, I would say it reminded me of the differences between the hd600 and 650. It is also worth noting that each pair of the LCD2s had different pads. One had velour and the other leather. It did change the sound quite noticeably.

One last thing that I considered: the HE5s were far more comfortable than the LCD2. The LCD2 had a tight clamp which I did not enjoy much, whereas the HE5 distributed pressure well over the whole headband and the around the ear areas.

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post #107 of 18459
11/14/09 at 11:44pm
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Originally Posted by tintin47 View Post
It is also worth noting that each pair of the LCD2s had different pads. One had velour and the other leather. It did change the sound quite noticeably.
Interesting...yes pads are very integral to the sound more so on orthos.
Can you describe the differences noted between the two and also vis a vis the HE-5.
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One last thing that I considered: the HE5s were far more comfortable than the LCD2. The LCD2 had a tight clamp which I did not enjoy much, whereas the HE5 distributed pressure well over the whole headband and the around the ear areas.
Hmm..Did Alex from Audeze say if the headband design was finalized? Was this a general concesus about the LCD-2 or more specific to your head shape ?
post #108 of 18459
11/14/09 at 11:51pm
tintin47,

Did you happen to try the HE-5 w/ the EF-5 amp?
post #109 of 18459
11/15/09 at 12:30am
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Interesting...yes pads are very integral to the sound more so on orthos.
Can you describe the differences noted between the two and also vis a vis the HE-5.

Hmm..Did Alex from Audeze say if the headband design was finalized? Was this a general concesus about the LCD-2 or more specific to your head shape ?
I asked if the headband was "final" and he said that it was not. For me, the LCD-2 had softer, more comfortable earpads. The HF5 did have better weight distribution. I generally prefer velour earpads, but the ones on the HF5 were a bit stiff. Nothing a bit of wear and usage wouldn't fix.
post #110 of 18459
11/15/09 at 1:13am
I did hear the EF5 amp, and though it was good, I didn't think that it was on par with the bigger, badder amps that I was using most of the day. It was a very good match and brought out the best of the HE5s sound sig, but it didn't seem to have the same control of the bottom end. At the same time, I am a solid state guy so take that for what you will considering the general "tube" sound (I generally think that tubes have a rather bloated bass compared with SS).

I didn't do enough listening with the two pads to really give anything concrete. I didn't do any direct comparisons between the 2 LCD2s. I just know that the overall sound changed. The one that I am talking about with my comparisons is the version with the all leather pads.
post #111 of 18459
11/15/09 at 2:52am
ohhh...goody-goody-gum-drops..giggle...

Got to get both Orthos at home, with proper cabling, and throw heavy atom bombardment there direction
post #112 of 18459
11/15/09 at 3:05am
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Yes, a good vintage receiver (or better, separate preamp and amp) from the Golden Age (late '70s to early '80s) will have plenty of grunt and good sound too, but as some have found out, vintage gear is big and heavy. But it will get you power supplies that will effortlessly pump out hundreds of watts for less than some people pay for interconnects (what we used to call "patch cords").

Yes, using a Krell is over the top. Quite. Ain't it great?
Good Iron is so hard to find!! Transformer manufacture is a lost art, and power supply's take a back seat today....arrgh!

I blame transportation costs..I suppose...loads certainly aren't getting easier!
post #113 of 18459
11/15/09 at 3:23am
Spent two days deciding, but I've finally deveided to try my hand at DIY, to go with the LCD2. I'm going to (eventually) purchase the parts to build a gamma2 DAC (which means a gamma1 as well) and a SOHA-II Headphone Amp, and assemble them myself.

Next year will be interesting.
post #114 of 18459
11/15/09 at 3:39am
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<snip> a gamma2 DAC (which means a gamma1 as well) and a SOHA-II Headphone Amp, and assemble them myself.
<snip>
Great choice on both fronts..
post #115 of 18459
11/15/09 at 8:21pm
i thought the Audeze was fantastic and plan to order a pair. i liked the HE5 too but not as much.
post #116 of 18459
11/15/09 at 8:23pm
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Originally Posted by vcoheda View Post
i thought the Audeze was fantastic and plan to order a pair. i liked the HE5 too but not as much.
COuld you care to elaborate on the things you didn't like on the HE-5 and vice versa what you liked about the LCD_2..also any shortcomings in the LCD-2? We have reports taht the LCD-2 was muddy and congested sounding..what kinda source and amplifier were you using?
post #117 of 18459
11/16/09 at 3:44am
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Originally Posted by vcoheda View Post
i thought the Audeze was fantastic and plan to order a pair. i liked the HE5 too but not as much.
Yup..need some elaboration! How did you hear them, did you bring the B52? And I know your a classic fan...was that part of the repertoire? Input..need input!!

The impressions seem to split and along the areas of how the phones (LCD-2 vs. HE-5) appear to be balanced acoustically between here and the other site. A lot of the impressions and contrasting differences might be anything from power related to the difference in pad types. I have heard examples from "lack of bottom" to "bloated bottom" and "distant hazing" etc.

Some people liked the stock Audeze Pads but more did not it seems. Any change in using the leather? How was the Head clamping feel of the Audeze?
post #118 of 18459
11/16/09 at 6:13am
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...Plus the advantage of the LCD-2 in being tuneable is a huge plus.
has this been confirmed?

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Interesting...yes pads are very integral to the sound more so on orthos...
it was reported that the LCD-2 could only be ordered with one set of pads, and that they were not swappable. if true, it seems like a poor design choice to allow one to tune the drivers, then take away the ability to swap pads, which seems simple enough to implement. i'm having a hard time understanding the logic behind this.
post #119 of 18459
11/25/09 at 8:48pm
@Jade East-
Why, because the manufacturer's wife voices her opinion (as we do 24/7 around here every day), would you say that Head-Direct has "Lost any of your future business"???

She was being a good wife, passionately sticking up for her husband and her husband's business. Why would you make such an extreme statement like that.
Yes, it's against the rules for a MOT to comment about their own products in a thread, unless specifically asked a question. But, it's clearly obvious that she's new to this and Jude cleaned up the thread and sent out messages to the appropriate members. Standard operating procedure. But why would you go extreme and say that you will never buy a product from a specific sponsor here, due to something that was clearly a newbie mistake.
We've all done this. Everyone should be so lucky to have a spouse that would stick up for her husband, like that,
The world would be a better place in my opinion. Certainly better that my ex-wife, that would take every opportunity in public to put me down in front of friends and acquaintances, knowing that she could never win a fight when it was just me and her.
One action should not ruin years of hard work, doing right by the members.

That's why she ex- Ms. Mtbiker
post #120 of 18459
11/25/09 at 11:26pm
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@Jade East-
Why, because the manufacturer's wife voices her opinion (as we do 24/7 around here every day), would you say that Head-Direct has "Lost any of your future business"???
Because she did so without disclosing her very important relationship when she voiced her "opinion".
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