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post #5866 of 10878
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Originally Posted by thune View Post


I'm curious as to what is 'ripped off'. You also laid into the Koda^2 for "borrowing so many of Smeggy's ideas". I haven't followed the lineage of every T50RP mod, so I'm curious what mods (other than the general idea of custom cups) these cans have borrowed too much from Smeggy's work. 

 


If you look at the Q&A on the ebay listing, he basically said that he tried to copy Smeggy's work, albeit his version shows much less attention to detail in just about every area.

 

post #5867 of 10878

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Originally Posted by rhythmdevils View Post

Does it matter?  This thread owes a lot to Smeggy and the time and effort he invested in this driver.  Smeggy's generously shared his work with the community, and that guy is ripping it off and then undercutting his price. 

 

Not cool at all IMO.  I hope no one buys anything from him. 


Based on the description on the eBay listing, Smeggy is aware that he is selling these. Not really sure what the problem is.

 

post #5868 of 10878

I didn't mean to sound harsh, I'm just saying it goes against our best interest to make people feel like they can't share their work here.  I mean it's a pretty good example of why LFF probably doesn't want to share his work. 

post #5869 of 10878
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Originally Posted by rhythmdevils View Post

I didn't mean to sound harsh, I'm just saying it goes against our best interest to make people feel like they can't share their work here.  I mean it's a pretty good example of why LFF probably doesn't want to share his work. 


Agreed.  The general spirit of this thread is to share information to further personal enjoyment of their own headphone, not to use someone else's hard work to make a quick buck.

 

post #5870 of 10878

Smeggy knows he is selling these, at least. So, I think it would all depend on what he personally feels about the matter. He may have no issues with him selling a cheaper variant of his product, in which case there's no need to worry about it.

post #5871 of 10878
Anyhow I've been enjoying my African blackwood thunderpants since September. I know what it is like to run a business and gave him my direct support for an excellent product. I will say I feel the thunderpants need the same level of amping as my ex lcd2s required.
post #5872 of 10878
Smeggy is swamped with orders ATM. I don't see why he would care if someone sold a lesser version as long as he is selling a bunch of TP1s.
post #5873 of 10878

Right, and I don't think anyone will be confused between the two products. The Thunderpants are obviously more of a premium item with more feedback than the Cedarpants. The Cedarpants does not appear to use as high quality materials (could be wrong) or have quite as nice of a finish overall. But, I'm sure you still get a very solid product for the money, as they are obviously more budget oriented. Not to mention, I like that the Cedarpants have two bass ports per cup and include plugs for one set of ports if you prefer the sound that way. That's a nice touch, to be honest. 

 

The only questionable material is the hard foam board he uses for the baffle. Of course, it might be more rigid than the stock plastic baffle, in which case it would still be an improvement. How it stacks up to a wood baffle, though, I have no idea.

 

Like I said, though, it really all depends on what Smeggy thinks on the matter. If he doesn't mind, no one else should either. Has anyone tried asking him what he thinks?

post #5874 of 10878

I don't think you realize how much you owe to Smeggy's work on orthos.  You might very well not own a T50rp if it weren't for his discoveries and experiments.  This thread might not even exist. 

 

Kind of sad.

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Originally Posted by rhythmdevils View Post

I don't think you realize how much you owe to Smeggy's work on orthos.  You might very well not own a T50rp if it weren't for his discoveries and experiments.  This thread might not even exist. 

 

Kind of sad.

 

Unless you've personally talked to Smeggy about his thoughts on the matter, I think you're being unnecessarily adamant about this being some horrible thing this guy has done. 

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Edited by rhythmdevils - 1/19/12 at 11:46am
post #5877 of 10878
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Originally Posted by pyrokid View Post

Do wooden cups really make that big a difference? I'm not sure why I'm still so skeptical, but I kind of am...

 

I'll have to try and make a pair of my own if they do. With my wordworking skills though, I might get laughed off the stage. eek.gif

 

I get that Smeggy has a good bit to be mad about, but on the other hand this wasn't completely unforseeable... An open, un-patented design that's had its creation documented is kind of begging for "competition."



Not sure if it's the fact that the cups are wooden, but more that the stock cups are suboptimal.

post #5878 of 10878

Question for those here that are more in the know regarding amp'ing, connections, and so forth.

 

I've got some T50RPs that I've made my own "Thunderpants-style" headphones with.  They sound great, though I'm continuing to *tweak* them and make them better.  I know that they like a lot of "power" to really drive the drivers, so I'm working on that angle.  Since I use them almost entirely at work, that's my focus.  I've got a Win7 PC with a Soundblaster X-Fi sound card.  Going direct to the soundcard actually sounds pretty darned good, but I've found a nice stereo receiver that I'd like to use as an amp. 

 

Since the amp is an older model (analog only, RCA-in), I'm guessing that my best option is to go OUT from the 1/8" jack on the soundcard, IN to an RCA input on the receiver, and then plug my headphones directly in to the front of the receiver.  I can set the computer volume to something nominal, I would guess, and then use the eq and volume on the front of the receiver.

 

Does that sound like my best option, without introducing more hardware?  Will that give me the additional "power" that I'm looking for?

post #5879 of 10878

Sounds like a plan to me.  Adjust the receiver to about 10:00-11:00 on the volume knob.  Start the PC volume low and adjust it up to where it sounds good, just be careful and don't overload the receiver input.

post #5880 of 10878

Just put the T50RP on my wish list..a bit perplex about the number of post on this thread compare to the six reviews on amazon.

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