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post #166 of 10678

BTW, the sa5k earpads work wonders: imagebam.com

 

They were good flat, but they're even better slightly angled(not too much otherwise the sound gets hollow)...they're uber-comfy(the best SONY has to offer?) and provide the same kind of SS as the cd3k(w/o ever being cavernous)...needless to say the v2 earpads are a major crapshoot in comparison(too thick...making the sound hollow, too stiff foam, lower quality pleather, not enough room for my ears). I still can't believe how good those drivers sound w/ a bit of work [:disq8]


Edited by leeperry - 9/25/10 at 2:15pm
post #167 of 10678

I always like the sound of angled drivers myself. How much are these sa5000 earpads, and where can one get a pair?

post #168 of 10678

the markups outside Japan are stellar, better source them from an export company...the SONY part number is "2-345-306-01".

 

I often have sound on top or behind my head, even worse than on the cd3k...that's just crazy

 

Angled drivers are the reason why all the mid/top end SONY phones always blow you away w/ their SS(cd3k/r10/sa5k), they provide a far more convincing presentation to the human brain.

 

The wasted potential on those drivers is just astounding...Count me in as a permanent ortho member[:murcielago]

 

I still think that this phone suffers from a big hole in the center, but it's easy to fix from a computer source.


Edited by leeperry - 9/25/10 at 11:09pm
post #169 of 10678

 

Thank you for introducing my Blog. 
 
The articles of consumption of Fostex has treated the "Sound House" of Japan.
It is an online store where musical instruments and the audiovisual apparatuses are handled. 
It uses it well because it is low-priced. 
 
 
post #170 of 10678

Konnichiwa Tiiduka [:le talus]

 

BTW, some sharper pics of my MDR-SA50RP: 

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they look like genuine leather, they even smell like it...SONY call it "natural leather".

 

and the spacers used to angle the drivers:

imagebam.com

 

each one is 2.5mm so I use two at the back of each earpad...2.5mm doesn't do anything and 7.5mm is too hollow. I've also tried larger spacers but then even 2.5mm was already too hollow. thin/5mm is spot-on to get the SONY headstage [:thundercracker]

 

I will reterminate it w/ this plug: apjodt.jpg

 

And I've cut the original felt before the driver, the one I'm currently using sounds really great...when I take it out it's like when you take out the foam before the Beyer 770 drivers: no more bass and very harsh trebles.


Edited by leeperry - 9/28/10 at 7:07am
post #171 of 10678


those pads look super comfortable,  i definitely want some sa5000 pads now.

good work


Edited by RockinCannoisseur - 9/27/10 at 9:09pm
post #172 of 10678

I had to wash the felt w/ a softening shampoo and let it dry half a dozen times, but now it's very soft..and indeed the sa5k earpads -most likely- being genuine leather really follow the body temperature. They're much better than the genuine leather Beyer Manufaktur earpads, those were greasy, too stiff and a bit sticky in comparison.

 

I still can't really believe how good this modded phone sounds...I'm gonna hoard a few pairs and most likely go semi-closed TP soon or later. <<Ortho_O Powah>> [:markdavis]

 

just like it's been said here: http://www.head-fi.org/forum/thread/482221/loaner-program-smeggy-made-fostex-t50rp-woodies-aka-thunderpants/135#post_6731353

 

"They really are amazing. Going back to dynamics left a hole in my heart for some orthodynamics"

 

http://www.head-fi.org/forum/thread/491772/review-and-impressions-thread-audez-e-lcd-2/60#post_6643507

 

"how well my 55$ T50RP handle mid range. None of the dynamics I have heard can make voices so lifelike."

 

The only real problem is that the phantom center channel is REALLY dim...unusable from anything else than a computer source IMO. Maybe it's due to my mods, but I doubt it.

 

and the low end bass was impressive but a bit bloated w/ the v2 earpads, the sa5k's fix it completely.


Edited by leeperry - 9/30/10 at 5:08am
post #173 of 10678

My one should be here by now...wonder whats taking so long?  I'd better investigate.

post #174 of 10678

the customs agents fell in love and kept it biggrin.gif

post #175 of 10678
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Originally Posted by leeperry View Post

the customs agents fell in love and kept it biggrin.gif


They're modding it as we speak.  

post #176 of 10678

 

Rats! I was hoping the pads were asymmetrical (like the Lambda's) and angled the drivers by themselves. But as long as you don't allow air leaks under the pads, all should be well.

 

I'm glad you're finding this headphone responsive to your modding efforts. You won't be surprised to hear that I'd call the descriptive "wasted potential" spot on.

 

We should point out, in case any customs agents are reading this, that the conjectural customs agents mentioned above fell in love.. with the headphone.

Whether they're modding it together or separately we leave to your imagination. Thank you.

 

post #177 of 10678

I prefer it like that tbh, so you can finetune the angle depending on the phone...I've studied the R10 patent PDF and experienced quite a bit w/ modding the cd1k/cd3k, I don't believe that some random earpads and random wooden earcups can end up in sheer eargasm.

 

The 02 earpads seem way too thick compared to what I'm hearing...finding the "sweet spot" angle for the sa5k earpads didn't take me long at all, as it was the continuation of my Manufaktur genuine leather DT770/600Ω experiments, but there isn't any room for improvement to my ears. One millimeter off, and the magic's gone IME. 

   

Also the fact that these drivers sound much better in a semi-closed enclosure than fully closed to my ears. Drivers need to breathe OR use a lot of psychoacoustics tricks like on the Ultrasone...well, I'm a cd3k freak so I want a wide and deep 3D SS.

 

Now a semi-closed TP w/ some finetuned sa5k earpads would be a different story. But I've been modding phones for quite a while, discussed w/ several other modders...and I strongly believe that we need cup resonances. Too much and it sounds wonky, but too little and it sounds muffled...Beyer make their Premium 770/880 cups out of ABS for a good reason, as it's also used for many musical instruments due to its very good resonance properties.

 

It's all about finding the right balance. I've found the materials I like to kill inner-cup resonances and provide a deeper/more percussive low end bass....I'm really out of speech towards my pimped T50RP, they sound like a "best kept secret"...a Japanese secret weapon of some sort [:zytrahus5]

 

Originally Posted by Anaxilus View Post

They're modding it as we speak.

 

[:ilovezadig:1]


Edited by leeperry - 9/30/10 at 3:57pm
post #178 of 10678
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Originally Posted by leeperry View Post

 

It's all about finding the right balance. I've found the materials I like to kill inner-cup resonances and provide a deeper/more percussive low end bass....I'm really out of speech towards my pimped T50RP, they sound like a "best kept secret"...a Japanese secret weapon of some sort [:zytrahus5]

 

 


There's no question: drivers this cheap should not have this much potential.

post #179 of 10678

now... I want to try this phone... but it is not available in my country... where could I get this cheapest? any info?... thanks...

 

 

 

post #180 of 10678

You have to source it from the US, in Germany it costs $220 for instance, yay.

 

The funny thing w/ that phone is that I often find myself thinking "so that's how it was meant to sound like?" [:albanel facepalm]

 

The low end bass response is just amazing...I can't hear any roll off. The bass reponse is very lean and loud and just like on the cd3k, it never outshines the rest of the spectrum...properly amped, nothing sounds congested whatsoever. And I fully agree that bass on dynamic phones sounds as "one note" as can be compared to this ortho.

 

I also find it highly sarcastic that the same company is selling the grossly overpriced/dull sounding Denon D_000 serie...for much higher prices at that[:trofub]

 

I'd like to try other orthos, but I only like single entry circumaural phones, and apparently the t50rp carries the most advanced drivers in the ortho family. Noone really makes headphones like the Japanese in my book.


Edited by leeperry - 10/1/10 at 9:17am
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