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Originally Posted by kalbee View Post

 

Not sure if headphones are considered electronics but anyway... what you feel is correct. In fact, there is no other way.

If humans and animals alike did not know to adapt, we'd be long extinct. Based on our environments and backgrounds, we're also selectively sensitive (or insensitive) to specific things, just as we'd also have our bias on how things should sound for the better.

 

The T50RP is best known as a inexpensive full-sized planar magnetic headphone. It isn't without flaw, in fact has many, but whether or not you will want to mod it significantly to improve the sound depends on your own volition. Like many have said in the past, there are still limitations to both the drivers and the enclosure, so we're not saying mods can achieve summit-fi tier performance. They also require effort, and sometimes the same time spent working to increase your headphone budget might be of better worth than sticking with these guys. There is no shame in choosing one or the other, or even to prefer the T50RP in their stock form. We do not all see, feel, hear, nor think the same. Our ears both enable us to hear and also acts as a filter unique to oneself.

Of course speakers are electronics. 

 

And, a bit off subject, but animals do not adapt in the manner in which you've described.  Evolution doesn't work like that.  Either you got the traits to survive or you don't.  You don't adapt.  Your genes will but you won't. 

 

My volition or opinion on the T50rp is that the enclosure is hopeless no matter what you do with it.  Sure, you can improve it, extend the treble, tame the bass, eq the heck out of it, but, imo, it will never produce music that will satisfy me.  I think the AlphaDog is on the right track of taking the enclosure out of the equation.  But, the enclosure Mr. Speaker is using is plastic too? 

 

Oh wutever the case, I just received a LCD2.  In heaven at the moment.

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And, a bit off subject, but animals do not adapt in the manner in which you've described.  Evolution doesn't work like that.  Either you got the traits to survive or you don't.  You don't adapt.  Your genes will but you won't. 

 

My volition or opinion on the T50rp is that the enclosure is hopeless no matter what you do with it.  Sure, you can improve it, extend the treble, tame the bass, eq the heck out of it, but, imo, it will never produce music that will satisfy me.  I think the AlphaDog is on the right track of taking the enclosure out of the equation.  But, the enclosure Mr. Speaker is using is plastic too? 

Lab rats beg to differ but anyway.

 

Hopeless? How far have you modded, or what kind of modded models have you heard? How far do you even know?

You're right though, the original cups are everyone's limitation. No matter what kind of modifications you do to them, you're limited in internal volume and shape as you have found out. There's only so much space to alter the properties of that 'cheap' plastic. In which case a larger enclosure or one with better material properties would alleviate a lot of the headaches.

 

Though honestly the constant nagging of plastic this and that reminds me of people that equally nag about Made in China products. Not all plastics are made equal, just as not all products made in China have the same degree of workmanship, QC, and material quality. And as mentioned, given a proper structure and size, plastic enclosures can have most of their flaws eliminated.

 

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Oh wutever the case, I just received a LCD2.  In heaven at the moment.

In the end, that's all that matters

:beerchug:

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My new DIY angled pads for T50RP
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Originally Posted by arbiche View Post





My new DIY angled pads for T50RP


Very nice. Can you measure their effect on the sound with mics ?

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Originally Posted by kalbee View Post
 

Though honestly the constant nagging of plastic this and that reminds me of people that equally nag about Made in China products. Not all plastics are made equal, just as not all products made in China have the same degree of workmanship, QC, and material quality. And as mentioned, given a proper structure and size, plastic enclosures can have most of their flaws eliminated.

 

In the end, that's all that matters

:beerchug:

You should hear me bitching about MDF/medite when it comes to speakers and turntables.  I'd take plastic over mdf any day.  But, I prefer not to own either in my audio system.

 

And, good luck fighting the good fight against those who fight against chinese goods.


Edited by viggen - 12/31/13 at 7:25am
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Originally Posted by viggen View Post
 

You should hear me bitching about MDF/medite when it comes to speakers and turntables.  I'd take plastic over mdf any day.  But, I prefer not to own either in my audio system.

 

And, good luck fighting the good fight against those who fight against chinese goods.


Lol xD

The worst part is you'd find people recommending MDF for DIY speakers enclosures... at least there won't be anyone actually recommending plastic. Other than for (manufacturing) availability or pricing, or shaping advantages. And, I agree, I'd rather own neither as well. At least if I am looking for any quality priced gears..

 

Once again, another thing I'd rather take otherwise if given the choice. Depends on the make, more so than the country of fabrication. It's just that often people auto-associate Made in China = dollar-store-tier quality. That grinds my gears ;)

 

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My new DIY angled pads for T50RP

Those pads scream quality man. Nice job there!


Edited by kalbee - 12/31/13 at 6:57pm
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Originally Posted by MunkyNutz View Post


Very nice. Can you measure their effect on the sound with mics ?

Beautiful pads! You could sell them.
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Beautiful pads! You could sell them.


....and a Happy New Year to you BMF.


Edited by Lohb - 12/31/13 at 8:20pm
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If they are better than 003 or Stax pads I'd buy them for my own mod if they were for sale.

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What if I will make pads for sale. Would many be interested to purchase? And the asking price is around 25 to 35$ not including shipping , will it be fair enough?

Based on my test in comparison to stock pads and the shure 840 pads, mine has the best seal and it added more body to the sound. Better staging also due to its angled position.
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What if I will make pads for sale. Would many be interested to purchase? And the asking price is around 25 to 35$ not including shipping , will it be fair enough?

YES smily_headphones1.gif
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I would charge more than $30 for those. You obviously put a lot of time into them. They look great
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What would be the benefits of these pads over the already existing MrSpeakers Alpha pads?

 

I hope a wider opening for the ear (not the depth, but the width).

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hi all.....

 

i have done the most common mod, i.e. plasticine and Paxmate.  Can i ask how i can bring up the treble?  does felt behind the white paper on the driver bring up the treble slightly?

 

thanks all.....

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Originally Posted by onefatsurfer View Post

I would charge more than $30 for those. You obviously put a lot of time into them. They look great

Yeah indeed. Lol
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