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Wondering if Monitor 10R and Monitor II are the same just different marketing. Yes i did look around but nothing definitive.

 

Those "8"'s sure look nice. Congratulations!

The 10r are the modern version (10 years ago!). They sound similar, but the 10r is a little more refined, mostly in tighter bass

Now I really want to get a 10R, as the 10-II has been monopolizing my ears for a while now. I just wish I could do something about the headband sliders; the plastic pieces are starting to crack. Has this happened to your pair? It appears to be a design flaw.

post #182 of 245
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Now I really want to get a 10R, as the 10-II has been monopolizing my ears for a while now. I just wish I could do something about the headband sliders; the plastic pieces are starting to crack. Has this happened to your pair? It appears to be a design flaw.

 



Mine never had any issues while I had them except for the foam inserts disintegrating
post #183 of 245
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Mine never had any issues while I had them except for the foam inserts disintegrating

Note: I'm talking about the black half that's to the inside of the headband, not the chromed half. The thin piece that says "Made in Japan" on it. Probably not noticeable unless you look for it.

 

And yeah, my foam inserts are gone too, which struck me as odd. The foam inserts from my original monitor 10 (13 years older) are not only intact but are still soft and clean, and have survived several migrations between the 10-I and 10-IIs cups as well as several weeks' worth of ear time on my part. 

 

Does the 10R have foam inserts too?

post #184 of 245
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Note: I'm talking about the black half that's to the inside of the headband, not the chromed half. The thin piece that says "Made in Japan" on it. Probably not noticeable unless you look for it.

 

And yeah, my foam inserts are gone too, which struck me as odd. The foam inserts from my original monitor 10 (13 years older) are not only intact but are still soft and clean, and have survived several migrations between the 10-I and 10-IIs cups as well as several weeks' worth of ear time on my part. 

 

Does the 10R have foam inserts too?

yes, disintegrated as well as the monitor 8's. Seems to be a pioneer affliction

post #185 of 245
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yes, disintegrated as well as the monitor 8's. Seems to be a pioneer affliction

I'm really excited to see some pictures of the Monitor 8, the Monitor 7 is really pretty and I've never seen the 8 in any catalogs

post #186 of 245
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Here's some SE-505's to add to the pile!

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You can tell what beasts they are sitting next to my Shures.

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Got them for $10 a few years ago. Never listen to them, I just hang on to them because they look like Darth Vader's personal headphones really. smile.gif

I had a pair of SE-505 headphones in the 80's. They sounded alright but they were heavy as hell.
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Monitor 8 photos finally

 

 

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Monitor 8 photos finally

 

 

Wow I didn't know these were one of the 1990s headphones. 

 

Intriguing.

 

I was expecting something more like this:

 

 

(image source: http://yaplog.jp/headphones/archive/71)

post #189 of 245
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I am prettt sure the 10r and 8 are early 2000's, not really "vintage"
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I am prettt sure the 10r and 8 are early 2000's, not really "vintage"

They're from 1999 if I remember correctly, so yeah. Definitely not "vintage" by most peoples standard of the word.

 

But if you go by definitions, vintage just means it's something that's discontinued and made to a different (not necessarily better :p) standard of quality than modern examples, so even the recently discontinued Denon line would be considered vintage.


Edited by takato14 - 8/10/14 at 10:05am
post #191 of 245

I've got a little treat...

 

A Pioneer SE-11, Pioneer's second to the headphone throne in the late 70s and early 80s. It's sound signature is very similar to audio-technica's ATH-6 to 8 except a bit more neutral and they're one of the most detailed headphones I've ever heard though they present it in a way similar to a HD600 so it's not really obvious during a first listen. They also have quite possibly the strangest sound stage/imaging I've ever heard as well. It sounds like dual mono yet it's still stereo and quite large.

post #192 of 245
You guys made me buy a pair of SE-505's off the bay to relive my youth. They should be here in a few days. If I remember correctly they were heavy as hell but sounded good. Still I haven't listened to a pair in many years (25ish ?). I'll post how they sound after they arrive.
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I've got a little treat...

 

A Pioneer SE-11, Pioneer's second to the headphone throne in the late 70s and early 80s. It's sound signature is very similar to audio-technica's ATH-6 to 8 except a bit more neutral and they're one of the most detailed headphones I've ever heard though they present it in a way similar to a HD600 so it's not really obvious during a first listen. They also have quite possibly the strangest sound stage/imaging I've ever heard as well. It sounds like dual mono yet it's still stereo and quite large.

I didn't think these even EXISTED, holy crap

 

Pioneer had two independant headphone lines, one was their "listening" gear and one was their monitoring gear, the SE-450/550/650, Monitor 7, 10, 10-II etc are all monitors while the SE-X line is aimed at consumer audiophiles

 

all I can say is that I hated the SE-6, it was overly warm and diffused and sounded extremely un-detailed

 

all of these traits apply to the HD600 as well IMO so I probably wont like these or the Master-1/SE-M10 either

 

but damn that sucker is pretty and I've never seen an actual photo of one before


Edited by takato14 - 8/12/14 at 5:51pm
post #194 of 245
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I didn't think these even EXISTED, holy crap

 

Pioneer had two independant headphone lines, one was their "listening" gear and one was their monitoring gear, the SE-450/550/650, Monitor 7, 10, 10-II etc are all monitors while the SE-X line is aimed at consumer audiophiles

 

all I can say is that I hated the SE-6, it was overly warm and diffused and sounded extremely un-detailed

 

all of these traits apply to the HD600 as well IMO so I probably wont like these or the Master-1/SE-M10 either

 

but damn that sucker is pretty and I've never seen an actual photo of one before

If I recall the higher end SE-X, those with the so-called variable chamber were only available in Japan compared that to the lower end SE-X and professional line which were exported. 

 

I also found some information suggesting the SE-6 to be the combination of parts from a SE-4 and SE-11 and a driver from the SE-7. Interestingly enough the SE-6 was an export only model and was not found in Japan.

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I have slight question, how does the Monitor-7 compare to the Monitor 10-II?

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