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post #16 of 30
10/20/09 at 3:20pm
The varied interpretations are a good measure more entertaining than the comic itself, if you ask me, which you probably didn't, but hey it's an internet forum, I've got to say something, you know like everybody else
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post #17 of 30
10/20/09 at 3:52pm
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Originally Posted by moogoob View Post
They are listening to high-quality remasters on the worst-quality built-in speakers money can afford. That's the joke.

To put it in terms us hi-fi nerds can understand: listening to DSOTM SACD remasters on the cheapest Skullcandy phones through your receiver's headphone out port.
Eh?Dude I got it. I was saying most of the ppl I know will go "Huh...I dont get it"
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post #18 of 30
10/20/09 at 4:35pm
Its pretty obvious that its making fun of the maximum volume of the laptop. I bet the number of people that know what the loudness war is is less than one half of one percent of the population.
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post #19 of 30
10/20/09 at 4:50pm
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Originally Posted by revolink24 View Post
Its pretty obvious that its making fun of the maximum volume of the laptop. I bet the number of people that know what the loudness war is is less than one half of one percent of the population.
I don't get it.

Either that, or its just not that clever.

I just learned about the loudness wars recently. Were the Beatles Remasters not recorded loud? Is that the joke some posters here are saying is the author's intent? If so, I agree with revolink that very very few people will get this joke. If its that they're playing remastered CDs through laptop speakers how's that any different than any other cds they'd play through laptop speakers.

I don't get it.
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post #20 of 30
10/20/09 at 4:59pm
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Originally Posted by Kirosia View Post
I also took it as kids being near-deaf nowadays due to listening to compressed music so damn loud.

Do you mind speaking up?...just kidding
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post #21 of 30
10/20/09 at 5:06pm
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Originally Posted by adrift View Post
I don't get it.

Either that, or its just not that clever.

I just learned about the loudness wars recently. Were the Beatles Remasters not recorded loud? Is that the joke some posters here are saying is the author's intent? If so, I agree with revolink that very very few people will get this joke. If its that they're playing remastered CDs through laptop speakers how's that any different than any other cds they'd play through laptop speakers.

I don't get it.

Taken Here Notice the same Beatles track remastered four times each time getting louder.
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post #22 of 30
10/20/09 at 5:29pm
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Originally Posted by flashnolan View Post
Taken Here Notice the same Beatles track remastered four times each time getting louder.
Right, so were the latest remasters that just came out this summer louder than the ones in 2000 or were they recorded at their original volume?
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post #23 of 30
10/20/09 at 6:36pm
I took it for being played through a lap top. Nothing to do with loudness wars. Fact is on that system recordings like metallicas death magnetic would probably sound better rather then worse
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post #24 of 30
10/20/09 at 6:47pm
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Originally Posted by adrift View Post
Right, so were the latest remasters that just came out this summer louder than the ones in 2000 or were they recorded at their original volume?
They didn't cut off any dynamics. Meaning, maybe louder, but no data at the peaks removed to make it so.
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post #25 of 30
10/20/09 at 7:40pm
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Originally Posted by manaox2 View Post
They didn't cut off any dynamics. Meaning, maybe louder, but no data at the peaks removed to make it so.
ok. I might need to re-read the wiki article on this cause I was under the impression that the album would necessarily be quieter if they didn't cut off any dynamics.
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post #26 of 30
10/20/09 at 9:27pm
If they increase the volume to just short of where the peaks will clip, they haven't reduced the dynamics. The range between the loudest and quietest sections will still be the same.
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post #27 of 30
10/20/09 at 9:37pm
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Originally Posted by scompton View Post
If they increase the volume to just short of where the peaks will clip, they haven't reduced the dynamics. The range between the loudest and quietest sections will still be the same.
so if they're just short of the where the peak clips, isn't this necessarily quieter than a recording where the volume clips the peaks?
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post #28 of 30
10/20/09 at 9:52pm
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Originally Posted by adrift View Post
so if they're just short of the where the peak clips, isn't this necessarily quieter than a recording where the volume clips the peaks?
It is if the original recordings had the same dynamic range before increasing the volume. Say 2 recordings have 30dB of dynamic range. If the volume of one is increased so that 5dB are clipped, that recording will have a higher average volume.

At least this is the way it works when I'm doing needle drops of my old LPs where I can only fiddle with the volume. From the linked article, remasters use other tools to compress the dynamic range.
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post #29 of 30
10/20/09 at 10:02pm
judging from that picture with the waveforms, there is no way these summer released beatles remasters were louder then those in 2000. I was commenting that they were louder then the original master recordings possibly.
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post #30 of 30
10/20/09 at 10:15pm
Ah ok. I got it. Thanks guys.
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