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post #91 of 1668
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You should try some Lambda Sigs sometime (or not). Insta-bleed for your ears.
haha..well I have explored the high end of stats for the last 5-6 months and albeit they are very nice, orthos just do it for me. Best of both worlds..a hybrid yet again!!
post #92 of 1668
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I tried stats' and tried to like them. But they seemed to paint to Rosie (not actual) picture of the musical event. Not that this isn't pleasant, or that it doesn't have it's devotee's...it wasn't for me.

And the reach of the bottom...didn't create a solid, plausible foundation to the Music (try Mahler as ex.). These are just my opinions of course and yours is free to very. Transients were good but dynamics had a ceiling also. I never did seek out the best ways to energize the stat however.

This ISO is better balanced and might turn out to be among the most detailed around. With a BOTTOM...I just hope a balanced cable may speed up the bottom to match the rest of the frequency range. Though after a week the bottom was more nimble and less sloth-like. It's only noticeable because the rest of the frequency range is devoid of most constrictions in this regard.

Just heard from Sankar and the Audeze brand will crank it back up mid November...COOL!! I was already asking about cable types and what the LCD-2 might be shipping with...he'll get back to me!

"An Ortho we will go".."An Ortho we will go" "Hi-Ho-a-Dairy(sp.)O".................!
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Edited by thinker - 1/19/14 at 1:47am
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How would a Audio-GD compass work with this phone? Which budget amps can you guys recommend to use with this?
post #95 of 1668
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After 24 hours break in i like these more than my Sennheiser HD-800.Today i will compare these to Stax O2.The HE-5 is very detailed and has plenty of inner resolution
and they showed me in direct comparison to Senns that the Senns are not the perfect headphone.
The HE-5 showed more real space in recordings and the Senns showed space wich is related more to the construction of the headphone.You are with the HE-5 closer to the performance.The HE-5 has also some warmth wich you also find in the O2.I am afraid
to say that these headphones might be the winner here.Be aware to use amps with a lot of current otherwise you hear distortion.
A little to early for me to make that claim. With a great balanced amp and top source the HD800 is still the phone to beat IMO.

I have a balanced cable being made and that ranking could change. But Ortho's are in the infancy stage and it won't be awfully long that I can see them being the phone of choice if you have power to spare.

And it's my feeling because of the construction I'm hearing the opposite. The spatial qualities of the recording venue are better maintained by the HD800, while I still hear some "middle of the noggin" image from the HE-5 that I don't with the Sennheiser. Yes, the detail and inner clarity will be the deciding factor....and for $600.00...whew it's a whole lot of argument for anything more expensive! That price is relative to Fang dressing out the HE-5 with a proper cable and giving the customer the option of cable type (Bal. or SE).
post #96 of 1668
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How would a Audio-GD compass work with this phone? Which budget amps can you guys recommend to use with this?
Fang's (Head-Direct) own EF-1 was what I first heard this phone on (and many others) and it did a credible job. How much power (milliwatts) does your amp offer at the stated impedance?
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Edited by thinker - 1/19/14 at 1:48am
post #98 of 1668
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After 24 hours break in i like these more than my Sennheiser HD-800.Today i will compare these to Stax O2.The HE-5 is very detailed and has plenty of inner resolution
and they showed me in direct comparison to Senns that the Senns are not the perfect headphone.
The HE-5 showed more real space in recordings and the Senns showed space wich is related more to the construction of the headphone.You are with the HE-5 closer to the performance.The HE-5 has also some warmth wich you also find in the O2.I am afraid
to say that these headphones might be the winner here.Be aware to use amps with a lot of current otherwise you hear distortion.
What are your thoughts on the low end and bass slam?
post #99 of 1668
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"middle of the noggin" image i noticed also but there is also something else, its little bit hard to describe its something like inner dimension in recordings and Senns compared are little bit flat in that area.
That flash of speed with warmth that puts flesh on the performers? Yeah! Gotcha! It's and ease and calm that adds the naturalness and an unforced quality to playback perhaps? I notice that also!

The HD800 won't romance a lack of sound chain back-up and support. I think the HE-5 CAN and WILL have romance added as long as you can stand on the power..if you can't? The image wall will collapse in a heart-beat.
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Edited by thinker - 1/19/14 at 1:48am
post #101 of 1668
OK, so after a couple weeks with these, here are my impressions:

* World-class midrange purity, tone, and transparency - I have heard none better in this regard. Easily as good as the HD800 in this regard.

* Outstanding lateral imaging, and even better image depth. Only the HD800 are better among all headphones I have heard.

* Treble is clean and neutral, if perhaps just slightly sweet. But the sweetness does not come at the expense of extension - there is seemingly limitless extension. Slightly more forward treble than the DX1000; slightly less than the HD800. For many will be "just right". There does seem to be one very small peak somewhere, not sure where, that occasionally stands out a little - but it is pretty high up, and just means a little extra sparkle - doesn't yield any unnatural stridency. The treble also has a "delicacy" that is pretty unique IME - dynamic headphones just don't seem to have this.

* Bass is impactful, and extremely well defined. Slightly more bass weight than the HD800, slightly less than the JVC DX1000. Bass definition is slightly less than DX1000, and on par with the HD800. Again, since some consider the HD800 slightly lean in the bass, and some consider the DX1000 to be too fat, the HE-5 will be "just right" for many. Plenty of bass for most - not enough for some, too much for others, but those people would be at the extremes. Mainly, the bass isn't present until called for, and doesn't impede at all on the mids.

* Most noticeable trait may be an incredible transparency and complete freedom from grain, etch, or anything in the way of the music.

The one main liability I have found, is that with some very complex music, there does seem to be the tendency for things to occasionally get a little congested. It's not a power issue - I've been using these with the Audio GD Phoenix, which has plenty of juice. This is just a very slight issue, but something I do occasionally hear. But only with music that is very very dense.

I did try these with my Decware CSP-2, which did far better with them than I ever expected, given their 28 ohm impedance. It did yield a slightly more romantic sound than with the Phoenix. But it was a sound that was very hard not to like. It was actually very, very engaging. It's a combination I could be very, very happy with.

Well that's it for now. HE-5's are here to stay, for me. They are the best open headphone I currently own. I can't wait to compare them to the Beyer T1 when it comes, but these are definitely a level above the DT880 and 990.

Now, time to get a better cable...
post #102 of 1668
nice impressions.

just another 2 weeks before i get to hear them. my expectations are pretty high so they better rock.
post #103 of 1668
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nice impressions.

just another 2 weeks before i get to hear them. my expectations are pretty high so they better rock.
If they dont rock, how about we trade? I've got a nice boulder here.
I mean a very nice boulder.
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Edited by thinker - 1/19/14 at 1:49am
post #105 of 1668
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Thanks Skylab,

i was forced to do this because i heard the potentiality of this headphone and i soon realised that this headphone need plenty of juice.
I hooked them up with my Krell monoblocks wich i run with Nordost cast cables so i heard this phone now completely symmetrical way.Krell have power of 8 OHM 300watts class A.
OK, what did i hear ....... these blow my Stax O2 and Sennheiser with a quite margin away.This headphone i a STATEMENT please try it out-
I was always waiting for someone to try out the HE5 with a power amp and you answered my prayer!

How did you hook them up to a power amp? Did you recable yours?
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