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post #706 of 1668
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Originally Posted by immtbiker View Post
@ Sachu - 2 CJ tracks. "Mining for Gold" and "Walking After Midnight". I chose those because they were done in an open church (I say this relating to dBel84's "Cara Dillon sounds like it would be best played to a large crowd over a PA system". )
Also, Alison Krauss' and Union Station album can be sharp at times, but on all of my headphones.
No more sibilance on those two tracks than what is considered normal..slight ss on "Walking after midnight".

dBel84 sent me a Alison Krauss track last night..some sharpness but not out of the ordinary.

Anyways, what you say is true though, THe HE-5 is a really nice headphone..Not sure about the HE-5+EF5 combo though. An M3, CK2III, B22, SOHA2, etc would all fair much better i would suspect. Hopefully i'll get to listen to the EF-5 sometime..but my recommendation thus far will be for any of the amps I mentioned above.
post #707 of 1668
Got mine today. Had about 90 minutes with them before going to work. Very impressed with the cosmetics and build quality. Straight out of the box with a stone cold tube amp it was clear there is something special here. Grado like warmth, but with more resolution, a smoother treble, and a decent sound stage. Plenty of very articulate bass. Likes a little more power than average. No problems whatsoever. Very positive first impression. This is going to be fun!
post #708 of 1668
Just wondering if this is typical of the HE-5:

Does anyone else notice slight spacings between the pads and the housing? The spacing is very slight and is easier to notice if there is a background light to help reveal it. Also, the spacing is not evident throughout the circumference of the housing, but only a single 1" segment for each channel.

Also, tim has kindly explained in another thread how to take out the pads... but I haven't yet figured out how to slide them out... anyone else figure it out? Thanks!
post #709 of 1668
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Originally Posted by foaming at the ears View Post
Just wondering if this is typical of the HE-5:

Does anyone else notice slight spacings between the pads and the housing? The spacing is very slight and is easier to notice if there is a background light to help reveal it. Also, the spacing is not evident throughout the circumference of the housing, but only a single 1" segment for each channel.

Also, tim has kindly explained in another thread how to take out the pads... but I haven't yet figured out how to slide them out... anyone else figure it out? Thanks!
The pads don't "slide out;" you need to lift up the side of the earpad and there are 4 tabs you need to push out that latch the pad in place.
post #710 of 1668
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Originally Posted by shampoosuicide View Post
Also, could anyone compare these to the AD2000? In terms of imaging, soundstage, detail, frequency response, tone, etc. Just to note, on my tube-modded AD2000, I hear no unpleasant upper-midrange emphasis, and find it more timbrally accurate than the HD650.

How does the size of the soundstage compare with more mainstream phones like the HD650/K701/DT880?
FYI: my AD2000 is not tube-modded, so my impression might be completely inapplicable, as I have no idea how the tube mod affects the AD2K's sound. But I heard the HE5 at a recent meet and it has a very different sound compared to the AD2K. I found the HE5 to be a fast, clear-sounding headphone with good separation between musical elements, along with proper treble and bass quantity and extension. I think the AD2K is still faster (though I'm not completely sure) but it has less clarity and significantly less separation. If your goal is a clear-sounding headphone that retains most of the speed of the AD2K, and your amp is up to the task, then why not try the HE5. I preferred the AD2K between the two though, as the HE5 didn't have the type of bass that I like and the AD2K does. The AD2K is also more forward and assertive which I prefer for the genres that I listen to with it - electronica/trip-hop, rock/prog rock, metal, etc.

The one headphone that I'd call the closest to the HE5 in terms of the soundstage only might be the HD800, followed by maybe the K701.

Please note that I will not answer any further questions you might have (or anyone else for that matter) as I have no further impressions to offer.
post #711 of 1668
Still no tracking info after six days!

post #712 of 1668
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Originally Posted by shampoosuicide View Post
Has anyone/does anyone plan on comparing the performance of the HE-5 out of the EF-5 vs. the higher-end amps you're using (Phoenix, EHHA, etc.)? How well do they scale with better amplification?

I remember HeadphoneAddict (I think) remarking in one of the meet threads that he preferred the HE-5 out of Fang's EF-1 (which may have been modded) over his ZDT.

Also, could anyone compare these to the AD2000? In terms of imaging, soundstage, detail, frequency response, tone, etc. Just to note, on my tube-modded AD2000, I hear no unpleasant upper-midrange emphasis, and find it more timbrally accurate than the HD650.

How does the size of the soundstage compare with more mainstream phones like the HD650/K701/DT880?
Head-direct HiFiMan HE-5 headphone impressions: url]http://www.head-fi.org/forums/6202646-post497.html[/url]
and http://www.head-fi.org/forums/6202790-post135.html

Head-direct HiFiMan EF5 amp impressions: http://www.head-fi.org/forums/6177735-post54.html
post #713 of 1668
can anyone here compare the HE-5 against Grado GS-1000?
post #714 of 1668
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Originally Posted by DC5Zilla View Post
can anyone here compare the HE-5 against Grado GS-1000?
worlds apart..i couldn't stand the GS1000 for more than 10 seconds..lifeless mids..completely sucked out with exxagerated highs and lots of bloated midbass..at lower listneing levels it is okay for classical music.

The HE-5 is in a different playing field altogether.
post #715 of 1668
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Originally Posted by Asr View Post
FYI: my AD2000 is not tube-modded, so my impression might be completely inapplicable, as I have no idea how the tube mod affects the AD2K's sound. But I heard the HE5 at a recent meet and it has a very different sound compared to the AD2K. I found the HE5 to be a fast, clear-sounding headphone with good separation between musical elements, along with proper treble and bass quantity and extension. I think the AD2K is still faster (though I'm not completely sure) but it has less clarity and significantly less separation. If your goal is a clear-sounding headphone that retains most of the speed of the AD2K, and your amp is up to the task, then why not try the HE5. I preferred the AD2K between the two though, as the HE5 didn't have the type of bass that I like and the AD2K does. The AD2K is also more forward and assertive which I prefer for the genres that I listen to with it - electronica/trip-hop, rock/prog rock, metal, etc.

The one headphone that I'd call the closest to the HE5 in terms of the soundstage only might be the HD800, followed by maybe the K701.

Please note that I will not answer any further questions you might have (or anyone else for that matter) as I have no further impressions to offer.
You don't have to answer this:P

When I had the AD2000 I liked the tube mod (or some variant of it) because of added clarity. I agree that without the tube mod, it can be a little hazy compared to some other headphones, but I experimented with cloth/tubing under the pads to get the perfect balance between clarity and warmth for my ears.

It can't hurt to take a little bit of cloth/old t-shirt, roll it up and experiment with it to find the best place for it for your ears.

The added comfort is a bonus.
post #716 of 1668
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Originally Posted by tim3320070 View Post
Fang did respond to me. He questioned whether my amp (Phoenix) might be to blame in terms of being underpowered (3 watts at 100ohms seems pretty powerful to me) and suggested his EF-5 amp might be the solution.
All I can say (and for the last time- I promise), is that none of my music was an issue to me in terms of treble etch or sibilance before with same setup. Only the introduction of this HE-5 (I say "this" as I hope it's an anomaly) has given me issues.
Thanks for everyone's help and input!
Tim, I'm sorry you're not enjoying the HE-5's more.

The possibility that the HE-5's are underpowered could be the cause of the extensive brightness you are experiencing, as bass requires mo' power to get through the cable than treble, which could be coming through more than it should be if your HE-5s are under-driven. I think this possibility makes at least as much sense as defective cans or burn-in, but out-of-phase makes sense too.

Good luck
post #717 of 1668
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Originally Posted by grokit View Post
Tim, I'm sorry you're not enjoying the HE-5's more.

The possibility that the HE-5's are underpowered could be the cause of the extensive brightness you are experiencing, as bass requires mo' power to get through the cable than treble, which could be coming through more than it should be if your HE-5 are under-driven. I think this possibility makes at least as much sense as defective cans or burn-in.

Good luck
Yeah..you are underpowering your HE-5 with the Phoenix Tim.
Sell that junk and get an EF-5
post #718 of 1668
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Originally Posted by grokit View Post
Tim, I'm sorry you're not enjoying the HE-5's more.

The possibility that the HE-5's are underpowered could be the cause of the extensive brightness you are experiencing, as bass requires mo' power to get through the cable than treble, which could be coming through more than it should be if your HE-5 are under-driven. I think this possibility makes at least as much sense as defective cans or burn-in.

Good luck
It's not that. The Phoenix is 3 watts at 100ohms- plenty. Tomorrow I will know if I'm a freak or have an out of spec unit. The bass is excellent on the HE-5, some of the best I have heard, same with the air and detail. Fix my treble and I have a keeper.
Enjoying the 325is? I want them back!
post #719 of 1668
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Originally Posted by sachu View Post
Sell that junk and get an EF-5
Fang thinks I should.....
post #720 of 1668
Tomorrow we will have some answers. Tim is bringing his pair over, and we'll compare his to mine. We will then discover what differences the two samples have. There are quite a few potential outcomes:

1. There will be a notable, audible difference, which is what I am expecting.

2. While we're both using a Phoenix, perhaps the rest of the system I've been using with them (Music Gall 25.2 DAC and Denon CD player as a transport) are more forgiving than Tim's source

3. Tim is more annoyed by brightness even more than I am (hard to imagine)
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