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post #691 of 1668
Dumb question- is it possible these could be out of phase. Would they even work? I have connected speakers up out of phase and they sound thin and bright.
post #692 of 1668
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Originally Posted by tim3320070 View Post
It's slightly better with the Mogami (probably it being balanced more affects that), but the stock cable produces it too.
I tried taking the Phoenix out of my PS Audio conditioner with no effect.
Not every track I have has the issue but they all sound too bright with a large portion being intolerable.
Setup= Media Monkey (Direct output)-Bel Canto USBLink-Ref-1 (via BNC)-Phoenix (via ACSS cable). It's been this way for a while, great sounding system, just not so much with the HE-5.
Are you using the DH Labs IC or the DNM Reson IC? Sorry, just trying to be helpful.
post #693 of 1668
Skylab and Tim, let me know if you want a second pair from this run included. I'm not that far away and it may help discover if multiple new run HE-5's are showing or if Tim has a defective pair. I do not hear a problem in mine but maybe my old ears are not picking it up.

Mike
post #694 of 1668
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Dumb question- is it possible these could be out of phase. Would they even work? I have connected speakers up out of phase and they sound thin and bright.

That is actually a good question. I've connected one speaker out of phase once before and it sounded weird and the imaging and soundstage collapsed.
post #695 of 1668
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Are you using the DH Labs IC or the DNM Reson IC? Sorry, just trying to be helpful.
I use the Shark Wire ACSS (CAST) cable from Audio-gd to hook Ref-1 to Phoenix.
Nothing has changed in my system, only the HE-5 was added.
Let me be clear, this is a very good headphone in all aspects except the treble sharpness- even with the Richard Shindell song I am listening to right now, there is a sharp/spikey edge to his voice.
post #696 of 1668
Just got mine in hand an hour or so ago. They sound very good, and not a hint of sibilance. Tim, if you want to send me the example track you have then I can give you my email. Just shoot me a PM.
post #697 of 1668
Has anyone/does anyone plan on comparing the performance of the HE-5 out of the EF-5 vs. the higher-end amps you're using (Phoenix, EHHA, etc.)? How well do they scale with better amplification?

I remember HeadphoneAddict (I think) remarking in one of the meet threads that he preferred the HE-5 out of Fang's EF-1 (which may have been modded) over his ZDT.

Also, could anyone compare these to the AD2000? In terms of imaging, soundstage, detail, frequency response, tone, etc. Just to note, on my tube-modded AD2000, I hear no unpleasant upper-midrange emphasis, and find it more timbrally accurate than the HD650.

How does the size of the soundstage compare with more mainstream phones like the HD650/K701/DT880?
post #698 of 1668
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Has anyone/does anyone plan on comparing the performance of the HE-5 out of the EF-5 vs. the higher-end amps you're using (Phoenix, EHHA, etc.)?

I remember HeadphoneAddict (I think) remarking in one of the meet threads that he preferred the HE-5 out of Fang's EF-1 (which may have been modded) over his ZDT.
I am very much interested in this too.
post #699 of 1668
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(sibilance does not fully describe it, it's a brightness and etch that is literally painful to my ears).

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Originally Posted by tim3320070 View Post
Let me be clear, this is a very good headphone in all aspects except the treble sharpness- even with the Richard Shindell song I am listening to right now, there is a sharp/spikey edge to his voice.
You seem to be referring more to brightness than the definition of Sibilance, stated below (sometimes audible at the end of a record, for example):

Siblance: The presence of strongly emphasized s, sh, ch, z, j sounds in speech called sibilants. These CONSONANTs are created by air moving through the vocal tract and being constricted by the position of the tongue and lips.
post #700 of 1668
There is greatly emphasized 's' and 't', along with an overall painful hardness to the treble. I am getting together with Skylab to test it out.
post #701 of 1668
Mine have been burning in about 24 hours and if it's not placebo, the sibilance seems to be dying off a bit. Everything was sibilant before: "s", "sh", "z", "ts", "t", "d" (yeah...), etc and now I'm only getting sibilance on the typical "s" family of sounds.
post #702 of 1668
How about "J" ?
post #703 of 1668
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Yes. I got a (not real helpful) response here on the forum but not directly yet. I haven't got any responses for the last 2 emails sent come to think of it.
Maybe I have been spoiled by Kingwa and expect too much.
I got a response from Head Direct. A very kind and reassuring response. I feel much better now
Kudos to them for great customer service!
post #704 of 1668
I definitely feel that my Luxman P-1 makes my HE-5's shine (not in a sibiliant way ) much more than my EF-5. However the Luxman, is a potent amp that is 6 times the price.

Other amps like my Headroom Desktop max, with the dedicated power supply which was close to $1500 is not any better than the EF-5.
The EF-5 and the HE-5 is a very good match and the price together is ridiculously low. For that amount of money (especially with the current sale going on), anyone who has any expendable cash should have this combo in their stable.
Just like the H-120 and D-10. The sound and functionality are there and like Bob Barker used to be, The Price is Right.

@ Sachu - 2 CJ tracks. "Mining for Gold" and "Walking After Midnight". I chose those because they were done in an open church (I say this relating to dBel84's "Cara Dillon sounds like it would be best played to a large crowd over a PA system". )
Also, Alison Krauss' and Union Station album can be sharp at times, but on all of my headphones.
post #705 of 1668
Fang did respond to me. He questioned whether my amp (Phoenix) might be to blame in terms of being underpowered (3 watts at 100ohms seems pretty powerful to me) and suggested his EF-5 amp might be the solution.
All I can say (and for the last time- I promise), is that none of my music was an issue to me in terms of treble etch or sibilance before with same setup. Only the introduction of this HE-5 (I say "this" as I hope it's an anomaly) has given me issues.
Thanks for everyone's help and input!
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