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post #601 of 1668
Rob, given we have similar setups (amp at least), did you find the treble to have an etch or sharpness at first (I am hearing this currently)?
Thanks
post #602 of 1668
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Originally Posted by FrankCooter View Post
I'm in the same boat you are. Still stuck in the "dispatch" phase, whatever that is. I'm in southern California so I figured I'd probably one of the first to actually get them. Shows what I know.
Same here. Still at dispatch dated the 4th, yet others got theirs? WTF is going on here?
post #603 of 1668
I dunno. I was worried about mine, but if you guys have the same tracking info that makes me less worried.
post #604 of 1668
the postal tracking system is in a rut recently... i received a package from japan today
but the tracking system shows that it's still in the sort facility...


regarding the he-5, i'm thoroughly impressed with this headphone. i've managed to get
the 6sn7 to be used on the wa6SE with the he-5 and it's amazing how clear, transparent
and distortion-free it is. maybe it's the tube factor, but i don't hear any sibilance or
hump in the upper register. it's creamy smooth and very well controlled. compared to
the denon d7000, the he-5 is much better balanced from top to bottom with better
detail retrieval, yet presents a creamier and more supple mid region. the mids are more
forward than the d7000 as well, making it ideal, to me, for vocals. the bass is better
controlled and pitch is articulated, compared to the d7000. using the 6gf7a and the
6sn7 makes the soundstage/headstage superior to the d7000 as well.
post #605 of 1668
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Originally Posted by tim3320070 View Post
Rob, given we have similar setups (amp at least), did you find the treble to have an etch or sharpness at first (I am hearing this currently)?
Thanks
Not really - but I didn't listen to it much until they were broken in 100+ hours.
post #606 of 1668
Well mine finally arrived - a full day after EMS tracking said they were delivered (to the wrong zip code no less). Impressions later.
post #607 of 1668
It's been about 35 hours of run-in on these. Overall the sound is very nice but I'm not sure I can live with the etch I hear in the treble (or maybe upper mids, not sure). Female vocals definitely have a sharp "sss" which to me is sibilance and hard to listen long to (sounds unnatural). I find myself turning the volume down. It gets less tolerable at higher volume. People complain about the 325is treble but I could run those at ear-splitting levels without the sharpness I get through the HE-5 (HE-5 beats the 325is in about every other way though). I have tried both the stock cable and my DIY balanced one with the same results. My D7000's have more fun bass but have a smaller sound compared to the HE-5 (less air and separation, detail). That said, they don't have the etch.
This was unexpected as some here heard zero sibilance (except sachu, who sold his).
I will give it more time (100 hours at least).
post #608 of 1668
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Originally Posted by tim3320070 View Post
...This was unexpected as some here heard zero sibilance (except sachu, who sold his).
I will give it more time (100 hours at least).
i doubt additional burn-in will do anything for the sibilance... i didn't hear
any humps nor sibilance from hour one... and i've tried many of krall cds
on it, which are known to be very revealing.
post #609 of 1668
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Originally Posted by takezo View Post
i doubt additional burn-in will do anything for the sibilance... i didn't hear
any humps nor sibilance from hour one... and i've tried many of krall cds
on it, which are known to be very revealing.
Are your HE-5 from the same "batch" (shipped in the last 2 weeks) as Tim's?
post #610 of 1668
Seems some of you are hearing the etch/siblance (Sachu, tim3320070) and others hear none at all.
This is either down to:
1) Production differences can to can.
2) Perception differences, different people are sensitive to different levels of treble.

(im discounting the source/amp thing, since I am sure sachu and dBel have easily discounted that with their rigs)

The only sure fire way to tell which of the two it is, is meeting another person with a pair to compare.
post #611 of 1668
my hp is from the first batch in late october.
post #612 of 1668
My HE-5 cleared customs in San Francisco early this morning. Hopefully I'll get them tomorrow. At least I'm no longer a member of "Team Dispatch"!
post #613 of 1668
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Originally Posted by Kabeer View Post
Seems some of you are hearing the etch/siblance (Sachu, tim3320070) and others hear none at all.
This is either down to:
1) Production differences can to can.
2) Perception differences, different people are sensitive to different levels of treble.

(im discounting the source/amp thing, since I am sure sachu and dBel have easily discounted that with their rigs)

The only sure fire way to tell which of the two it is, is meeting another person with a pair to compare.
very true. my hearing is fine, imo, but compared to others it may be shot...
i hear sibilance/etch in my gs1000 the most, followed by the d7000 on some
recordings, but almost none from the he-5 comparing the same tracks.
i do hear etching on my 128kbps acdc tracks, but i hear that thru all of
my hps.
post #614 of 1668
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Originally Posted by tim3320070 View Post
It's been about 35 hours of run-in on these. Overall the sound is very nice but I'm not sure I can live with the etch I hear in the treble (or maybe upper mids, not sure). Female vocals definitely have a sharp "sss" which to me is sibilance and hard to listen long to (sounds unnatural). I find myself turning the volume down. It gets less tolerable at higher volume. People complain about the 325is treble but I could run those at ear-splitting levels without the sharpness I get through the HE-5 (HE-5 beats the 325is in about every other way though). I have tried both the stock cable and my DIY balanced one with the same results. My D7000's have more fun bass but have a smaller sound compared to the HE-5 (less air and separation, detail). That said, they don't have the etch.
This was unexpected as some here heard zero sibilance (except sachu, who sold his).
I will give it more time (100 hours at least).
Mine have about 10 hours of burn-in and there's crazy sibilance on "s" and "t" sounds.
post #615 of 1668
I heard no sibilance at all on my 325is and very slight (almost zero) on my D7000's.
I sent an mail to Fang asking about it.

If someone could try or download Cara Dillon's "Grace" and give it a listen, that is the most sibilant I have heard in my music collection.

I love her music but it's hard to stand with the HE-5. It's not across the board as some music has less in the recording but it's enough.
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