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post #481 of 1668
Yup certain ortho's 'tone'/timbre are why I love them so much.

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Originally Posted by smeggy View Post
I'd certainly like to give both new orthos a good listen. Reports are generally favorable so that's a very positive sign.
Id like to give em both a listen, but unfortunately thats way pricey for both at the same time!!!

If anyone in London buys a pair, please let me have a listen too .

I'll return the favour by bringing along a few legendary orthos of yore
post #482 of 1668
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Originally Posted by dBel84 View Post
it lacks a little high end extention but for the owners it is but a small price to pay. ( Not the can for you MPI )
..dB
Good to know. This quote from wualta really makes me think I wouldn't like it stock:

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Originally Posted by wualta
Sonically, it's dark, obviously a relative of the YH-100, but like the YH-100 it has great potential. The one example I've heard has light damping added but is still dark, pretty much as the frequency response graph published by Yamaha shows-- a 3dB/octave downward tilt hinged at 1 kHz.
YH100 = bleh.

The T40v1 also has a bit of soundstage due to its circumaural pads. Sadly it is closed which hinders its overall sonic performance, but also provides a bit of isolation. I prefer 'stats to orthos in general, but the HE5 is something worth having, especially for the people who would rather not mess with modding to eek out the best possible sound. If the HE5 could be tweaked, that'd be a whole 'nother story for us ortho modders.
post #483 of 1668
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Originally Posted by mypasswordis View Post
YH100 = bleh..
Wualta heard my set in a non-optimal configuration. It is much better than that configuration.
post #484 of 1668
The YH-100 can sound exceptional. I preferred mine to the HE5 on most counts. It is balanced very well, anything but dark but it lacks that glorious soundstage that the HE5 brings to the table. ( and for those of you who feel the HE5 lacks in soundstage - this is all relative )

In fact I urge people on the fence to pick up a vintage ortho to see what it is all about. They can be had for cheap ( some of the time ) and you will most likely not sell them on..dB
post #485 of 1668
Yeah I meant stock YH100 = bleh (edit: and therefore stock YH1000 = bleh). I haven't heard a YH100 in an optimal configuration either, and I've never heard a YH1000. The YH100 I remember hearing (cetoole's) was hastily damped with not much thought put into it, if I remember correctly. This was before micropore and all that.

Edit: dBel, isn't yours in the custom wood housings...?

Edit 2: Sorry, I just realized you were talking about the YH1000, Kabeer.
post #486 of 1668
Mine took me about 9 months of gradual tweaking to hit the sweet spot. The YH100 is a B**** to deal with..dB
post #487 of 1668
Wow, that's kind of a long journey. Would love to hear it, sometime. And the Donuts too, which also used the YH100 drivers.
post #488 of 1668
The stock YH100 is not really a very good sounding headphone. I had a pair. When they were modded to way beyond recognition (totally new housing and wire, only the drivers remained), they sounded great. But what I had still didn't sound as good as the HE-5 (just to provide an alternate viewpoint).
post #489 of 1668
Thanks for the comparison, I was curious as to how the Donuts would stack up to the HE5.
post #490 of 1668
I know that you don't hear the high mid peak in your example, this was one of the biggest problems with the HE5 I had, it was superb on all other accounts. If I one day own a pair , I will butcher and modify it to get it where I want it to be.

..dB
post #491 of 1668
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Originally Posted by mypasswordis View Post
Thanks for the comparison, I was curious as to how the Donuts would stack up to the HE5.
The donuts actually had a bit more clarity than the HE-5, but this was at the expense of a pretty hot treble (which is funny, because the stock YH-100 have a badly subdued treble).

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Originally Posted by dBel84 View Post
I know that you don't hear the high mid peak in your example, this was one of the biggest problems with the HE5 I had, it was superb on all other accounts. If I one day own a pair , I will butcher and modify it to get it where I want it to be.

..dB
Yeah, and what is even odder is that the 6kHz peak in the HD800's is what really turned me off to them - so if my HE-5's had such a peak, I cannot imagine it wouldn't bother me.
post #492 of 1668
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Originally Posted by dBel84 View Post
I know that you don't hear the high mid peak in your example, this was one of the biggest problems with the HE5 I had, it was superb on all other accounts. If I one day own a pair , I will butcher and modify it to get it where I want it to be.

..dB
X2


Haven't heard the donuts but i've got to say Don's modded Yh-100 does sound amazing. Very well balanced.
post #493 of 1668
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Originally Posted by Skylab View Post
Yeah, and what is even odder is that the 6kHz peak in the HD800's is what really turned me off to them - so if my HE-5's had such a peak, I cannot imagine it wouldn't bother me.
It will be like many headphones with "batch" variation - the small production nature will have inherent variances. Bass heavy K1000 / R10 vs bass light but to highlight a well known example.

It can always be toned down using the EF5 too , so these in my mind would be perfectly suited for those concerned..dB
post #494 of 1668
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Originally Posted by dBel84 View Post
It will be like many headphones with "batch" variation - the small production nature will have inherent variances. Bass heavy K1000 / R10 vs bass light but to highlight a well known example.
Yup, that makes sense.
post #495 of 1668
Both yh100 and yh1000 also have batch variations. But I can say i can say in stock form all variations of yh1000 are better than stock yh100. Wualta didn't hear a stock yh1000.

As for the donuts I couldn't stand their overly bright treble balance. But it's possible they might be more to your tastes mpi. I on the othe hand Am fine with the trebles of yh1k being a little light.
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