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post #466 of 1668
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Originally Posted by myk7000 View Post
The question is, for those of you who already own your hd800s and find them to be amazing headphones (not too much criticism for them), do the he5's surpass them to you?
That would be each person's taste, wouldn't it? Since they excel at one area while not on the other. For the price though, HE5 sounds like a winner. If I didn't have HD800, I would probably go with this myself.
post #467 of 1668
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Originally Posted by thinker View Post
because it was insane to drive the HE-5 with the Krell monoblocks i have now hooked them up with the great Moth si 2a3 amp.I run the He-5 from the speaker output terminals and the sound result is just phenomenal and the HE-5 is also great with tube amps.Hooking it up with the Moth i didnt loose anything what the Krell combo offered.Somehow i find the HE-5 sounds better on speaker terminals-i dont know why.Guess what- i sold my Sennheiser HD-800 phones yesterday.
I can't wait to hook them up to the SI2A3/45 Moth, the direct heated 45 is scrumptious. The First Watt, Moth and LFD will be pressed into service to power the HE-5, and yes, I will use the speaker outputs to power them!

The HE-5's are more forgiving of source but need a lot more power the the HD800. I won't be selling the HD800 because of these, but they will compliment the headphone stable and offer a different flavor at the end of the day.

For me the new breed of Orthos are better than most every other phone I've tried or own but don't out do the HD800, at least for Classical, which is my favorite genre. Hopefully the reports for the Audeze claim they are easier to drive.....I hope so!
post #468 of 1668
i could only find the hd800s better for classical so they were returned .
post #469 of 1668
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Originally Posted by achristilaw View Post
I can't wait to hook them up to the SI2A3/45 Moth, the direct heated 45 is scrumptious. The First Watt, Moth and LFD will be pressed into service to power the HE-5, and yes, I will use the speaker outputs to power them!

The HE-5's are more forgiving of source but need a lot more power the the HD800. I won't be selling the HD800 because of these, but they will compliment the headphone stable and offer a different flavor at the end of the day.

For me the new breed of Orthos are better than most every other phone I've tried or own but don't out do the HD800, at least for Classical, which is my favorite genre. Hopefully the reports for the Audeze claim they are easier to drive.....I hope so!
The thing is I believe based on my listening that HD800 were designed specifically for classical music listening. It is my favorite genre as well, and I've never heard another headphone quite as good as it in this field. The R10s are close, but not quite there. I haven't yet heard the HE-5 but based on the people who prefer it and their tastes in music, I bet it is not as well suited Classical as the HD800. I don't even think the R10s are as suited for classical and I own one. The HD800 is like a dream come true in terms of representing a huge classical sound image.
post #470 of 1668
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Originally Posted by DavidMahler View Post
The thing is I believe based on my listening that HD800 were designed specifically for classical music listening. It is my favorite genre as well, and I've never heard another headphone quite as good as it in this field. The R10s are close, but not quite there. I haven't yet heard the HE-5 but based on the people who prefer it and their tastes in music, I bet it is not as well suited Classical as the HD800. I don't even think the R10s are as suited for classical and I own one. The HD800 is like a dream come true in terms of representing a huge classical sound image.
The problem is if the HD800 can be a chameleon in terms of soundstage, and not just project a huge soundstage all the time. A lot of classical music (solo, chamber) is very intimate, and even the mics that record orchestral playing are usually pretty close by so if you're hearing as if the orchestra is far away there is a coloration. I think you'd be surprised by how right the timbre of acoustic instruments is on the HE5 and on most vintage orthos that are properly modded.
post #471 of 1668
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Originally Posted by myk7000 View Post
The question is, for those of you who already own your hd800s and find them to be amazing headphones (not too much criticism for them), do the he5's surpass them to you?
When I brought my HD800's over to Zanth for him to borrow, I got to hear his loaner pair of HE5 and I was astounded. They just sounded more musical and less "hi-fi" than the HD800. No wowie-zowie inflated soundstage, just tight musical performances in a believable space. All the frequencies gelled "correctly". I knew I had to have them and that feeling of impatience came over me because I could not have them NOW! But NOW should be very soon!
post #472 of 1668
Pretty much salivating at this point...
post #473 of 1668
It's not even the soundstage which really affects my enjoyment of the HD800 in classical music, but its decay and attack of transients which I feel is a little bit hard on the ears in rock music, but just right for classical.
post #474 of 1668
A combo sales at Head-Direct, HE-5 and EF5 for $900.
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post #475 of 1668
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Originally Posted by Skylab View Post
Superior to both in every respect.
Knowing how much you love your Beyers, this does mean a lot to me!

Well, I guess Fang should be expecting an order if he isn't already sold out.
post #476 of 1668
before i sold the Sennheiser HD-800 i made close listenings for couple weeks.First thing wich i prefer most on audio components is how real or close it reproduces the characteristic of an instrument this is important especially on classical music or jazz all other attributes have secondary meaning as soundstage -air etc.Its nice to hear huge soundstage but after some time you will miss something.If the note of an instrument is spot on on your headphones you can live with it with almost zero soundstage.The He-5 is one of those rare components that have soundstage and the right note and you feel fully satisfied
post #477 of 1668
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Originally Posted by thinker View Post
before i sold the Sennheiser HD-800 i made close listenings for couple weeks.First thing wich i prefer most on audio components is how real or close it reproduces the characteristic of an instrument this is important especially on classical music or jazz all other attributes have secondary meaning as soundstage -air etc.Its nice to hear huge soundstage but after some time you will miss something.If the note of an instrument is spot on on your headphones you can live with it with almost zero soundstage.The He-5 is one of those rare components that have soundstage and the right note and you feel fully satisfied
Now THIS is what I wanted to hear! *Places an order*
post #478 of 1668
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Originally Posted by DavidMahler View Post
It's not even the soundstage which really affects my enjoyment of the HD800 in classical music, but its decay and attack of transients which I feel is a little bit hard on the ears in rock music, but just right for classical.
I don't see how transients could sound harsh on one genre and just right on another with the same headphone unless the rock recordings are harsh to begin with. Most of the ones I listen to are not.

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Originally Posted by thinker
If the note of an instrument is spot on on your headphones you can live with it with almost zero soundstage
This is exactly the case with most modded vintage orthos. The fact that the HE5 adds some soundstage onto that makes it really a fantastic headphone.
post #479 of 1668
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Originally Posted by mypasswordis View Post
This is exactly the case with most modded vintage orthos. The fact that the HE5 adds some soundstage onto that makes it really a fantastic headphone.
This is indeed the lure of ortho's vintage and new. The YH1000 has both soundstage and the most phenomenal mids out there, it lacks a little high end extention but for the owners it is but a small price to pay. ( Not the can for you MPI ) , until recently, the only ortho's to offer soundstage ( other than the YH1000 ) and exemplary performance have been the original T50v1 and the original "ortho"; the wharfedale isodynamic headphone. (and if you think the HE5 is hard to drive, no idea what ya'll think of the wharfedales )

The new breed of ortho is a welcome addition to an age old technology.

..dB
post #480 of 1668
I'd certainly like to give both new orthos a good listen. Reports are generally favorable so that's a very positive sign.
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