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post #421 of 1668
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Originally Posted by sachu View Post
Umm i think there are only one or two folks who have heard the HE-5 on the EF-5 so it is much too early to call for a consensus.

I can tell you though that this SOHA-2 will kick some serious butt in that price range. It will power the HE-5 and sound great with ease. It can drive my Wharfedale ID1 means the HE-5 is a piece of cake for it. I have heard the HE-5 on this particular SOHA-2 and can't recommend it enough for anyone looking for quality amplification.

edit: yes I am listening to this amp right now
I heard Bill's SOHA 2 with Grado RS-1 and several orthodynamic headphones and I agree it will also be a good choice for those who can DIY. Not all of us.
post #422 of 1668
I would just like to know if it really is incredibly restricted as to what amplification will drive it. I just love my m902 and would hate to not be able to use it.
post #423 of 1668
woof37,

I'm kind of in the same boat. I just got a used CKKIII, which I think is considered a budget amp at around 200. I like it very much, but the general consensus that the HE5 is not the easiest thing to drive has had me occasionally concerned. Still, I try to hope that the CKKIII will be at least "minimally capable" of powering the HE-5, and I hope your m902 (which I imagine is better than the CKKIII) works fine with it!
post #424 of 1668
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Originally Posted by sachu View Post
Umm i think there are only one or two folks who have heard the HE-5 on the EF-5 so it is much too early to call for a consensus.

I can tell you though that this SOHA-2 will kick some serious butt in that price range. It will power the HE-5 and sound great with ease. It can drive my Wharfedale ID1 means the HE-5 is a piece of cake for it. I have heard the HE-5 on this particular SOHA-2 and can't recommend it enough for anyone looking for quality amplification.

edit: yes I am listening to this amp right now
How does it compare to a Stacker?
post #425 of 1668
There are very few who can answer your question. And it is a difficult one to answer easily. SOHA II is a superb amplifier, stacker has a certain ability to define microdetail and "air" which few other amplifiers achieve but in general performance the soha ii gets you about 90% of the way there.

Here is a quote from regal

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.......Now the Mullard 12AU7's has pulled ahead of the 8416's. All the tubes I have been working with are sounding better.

I think the original design of 1 mA per tube section is too low and a remnant of the old (pre TL783) PS design. The amp is competing with what I brefly remember my Stacker II sounding like. The biggest improvement is in bass definition (i.e. telling the difference between the bass drum and the bass guitar.)

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..dB
post #426 of 1668
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Originally Posted by woof37 View Post
I would just like to know if it really is incredibly restricted as to what amplification will drive it. I just love my m902 and would hate to not be able to use it.
Well, it might work.

I previously mentioned that my maxed Woo WA6 (non-SE) can drive them nicely, as did a $299 HiFiMan EF1 amp at CanJam and RMAF (although the EF2 does not fare as well). And I noted that I can get decent sound out of an iBasso D4 portable USB DAC/amp when running it with a fresh 9v battery, although it still wont play loud enough (and don't even think about the D4 in 5v-only mode). The Nuforce uDAC also could not get to adequate volume levels at 5v only either.

But, the EF5 and SAC KH1000 amps really take them to new heights as far as power is concerned. They drive the HE-5 effortlessly. As far as sound quality, my Woo WA6 still sounds great vs the EF5, and it can play loudly. But you can hit max volume on the knob more easily with WA6, and be left wishing for another 2-3 dB of headroom (although there is no clipping), while that doesn't happen with the EF5 or SAC KH1000 amps. Still, the WA6 beats all the portable amps with the HE-5, although one with all the mods like my WA6 will cost 3x more than the EF5. So, then you have to consider bang-for-the-buck.
post #427 of 1668
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Originally Posted by HeadphoneAddict View Post
Well, it might work.

I previously mentioned that my maxed Woo WA6 (non-SE) can drive them nicely, as did a $299 HiFiMan EF1 amp at CanJam and RMAF (although the EF2 does not fare as well). And I noted that I can get decent sound out of an iBasso D4 portable USB DAC/amp when running it with a fresh 9v battery, although it still wont play loud enough (and don't even think about the D4 in 5v-only mode). The Nuforce uDAC also could not get to adequate volume levels at 5v only either.

But, the EF5 and SAC KH1000 amps really take them to new heights as far as power is concerned. They drive the HE-5 effortlessly. As far as sound quality, my Woo WA6 still sounds great vs the EF5, and it can play loudly. But you can hit max volume on the knob more easily with WA6, and be left wishing for another 2-3 dB of headroom (although there is no clipping), while that doesn't happen with the EF5 or SAC KH1000 amps. Still, the WA6 beats all the portable amps with the HE-5, although one with all the mods like my WA6 will cost 3x more than the EF5. So, then you have to consider bang-for-the-buck.
Seems like everything surrounding HiFiMan is great quality for a great price!

Question for you personally, Larry; I know that you have a DLIII sitting around as a source and I'm sure you're quite familiar with its sound-- how do you think it will pair up with the HE-5? I'm either aiming for an HE-5 sourced with a DLIII (or an MHDT Havana) and I'm curious how you think they will pair up.

My holiday gift-to-myself-rig is so far looking like:

DLIII -> EF5 -> HE-5
post #428 of 1668
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Originally Posted by Landis View Post
Seems like everything surrounding HiFiMan is great quality for a great price!

Question for you personally, Larry; I know that you have a DLIII sitting around as a source and I'm sure you're quite familiar with its sound-- how do you think it will pair up with the HE-5? I'm either aiming for an HE-5 sourced with a DLIII (or an MHDT Havana) and I'm curious how you think they will pair up.

My holiday gift-to-myself-rig is so far looking like:

DLIII -> EF5 -> HE-5
Most of my listening so far has been using the CD5001 > PS Audio DLIII > SAC via XLR and EF5 via RCA > HE-5 so I think they pair up well, and it sounds good with the DAC in 96K or 192K up-sampling. The Pico DAC-only also pairs well with the EF5.
post #429 of 1668
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Originally Posted by HeadphoneAddict View Post
Most of my listening so far has been using the CD5001 > PS Audio DLIII > SAC via XLR and EF5 via RCA > HE-5 so I think they pair up well, and it sounds good with the DAC in 96K or 192K up-sampling. The Pico DAC-only also pairs well with the EF5.
Quick as lightning, Larry!

Thanks for the response-- I think the Pico wouldn't be quite a versatile as a full-sized desktop source in my rig.

Ohhhh Mr. Wallet, you shall be but a sad flap of leather soon.
post #430 of 1668
Thread Starter 
Myself and others have heard back from Apuresound and the connector connection has been established! Can't wait! Alex previewed a few connector types and found one that permits compatibility with his wire and is of a high enough quality! I hope by the end of next week......
post #431 of 1668
I have so far used the HE-5 with the Audio-GD Phoenix, Decware CSP-2, J Sound Lab Headphone, and they sounded good with all of them. After that experience I stopped trying amps, since I figured that was a pretty good cross-section. I wouldn't try using them with a portable amp, but with a good home amp, they should work well. I even had much better than expected results with the two OTL amps I tried above - and the HE-5 sounded so good with the CSP-2 I may never part the two...well, until my APS balanced cable arrives
post #432 of 1668
Found this mini review on the HE-5 by accident today:

Pay less for world's best headphone? | The Audiophiliac - CNET News
post #433 of 1668
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by The Other Allen View Post
Found this mini review on the HE-5 by accident today:

Pay less for world's best headphone? | The Audiophiliac - CNET News
That's good the Orthos are going mainstream! With the new cable I will see how far they can reach, perhaps a finalist for the one of many that garner the title of "Worlds best phone". Will see.....
post #434 of 1668
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Originally Posted by The Other Allen View Post
Found this mini review on the HE-5 by accident today:

Pay less for world's best headphone? | The Audiophiliac - CNET News
I hope this means we will see more orthos produced, I just hope the HE-5's price doesn't skyrocket after that...
post #435 of 1668
Looks like HE-5s are back in stock at head-direct. Hope this means they will finally start shipping orders. (ordered mine on 11/05).
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