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post #391 of 1668
Where are you guys getting the HE-5 balanced cables from?

Thanks in advance.
post #392 of 1668
IIRC, Fang is going to be offering one, and you can also get one from APureSound. But I could be wrong because I'm too lazy to click back through the thread and find out for sure.
post #393 of 1668
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Originally Posted by foaming at the ears View Post
Ahh, thanks for the 2nd point of view. So in your experience, he probably meant long-term bass in the sense of how long it lingers.
Well I cannot talk for him (but if I could I would say that's not what he meant; he seemed to refer to the time needed to assess the bass presence). I was only stating my own experience with a genre of music in which the HE-5 does lack bass presence and oomph. But then again, it might be because of my amp or might be typical of this technology.

For other types of music such as rock/jazz/ect., it all seemed fine and enjoyable, but bass is a bit less important for me with these genres so I may not be the best person to assess its quality.

All in all, I agree with all his observations even if I have not heard the HD800/PS1000/701 and it is indeed a very very enjoyable headphone.
post #394 of 1668
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Originally Posted by shotmaker View Post
But then again, it might be because of my amp or might be typical of this technology.
haha...I don't think you will quite find any other technology capable of producing quite as much bass quantity and quality wise as the orthos do.

There are ways one could mod the HE-5 to be bass monsters, but in their current state i do agree that they don't can't do the lowest of the low octaves.
Some of my vintage orthos actually have greater impact as well, albeit after some modding.
However, i don't find them lacking in bass either.
post #395 of 1668
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Originally Posted by ygm View Post
Where are you guys getting the HE-5 balanced cables from?

Thanks in advance.
Mine is coming from APuresound.
post #396 of 1668
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Originally Posted by foaming at the ears View Post
Hi Beagle,

I know it's been a while since you've heard the HE5, but can you clarify the above or try to confirm my interpretation of it?

The HE5's bass is nice but lacks the oomph of Grado's GS/PS. Even with this "shortcoming" (some would say), it is tighter/faster than the Senn's without being "anemic". I'm not sure what to make of your 701 comment or what the long term presence of bass is.
I found the bass on the HE5 to be almost ideal. You do give up some impact and the warm seductive bass "resonant" feel of, say, Grados, the HD650 or Beyers. But for me, the balance in the bass range is almost flawless. Regarding the K701, bass is not the first thing you notice when you listen to them. It is not obvious and some find it lacking (not me). Going to the 701 after the HE5, you notice the bass. I also experienced this phenomenon after using Stax. To sum up, I found the HE5 to have speed, clarity transparency and adequate warmth throughout the whole spectrum. That's hard to do. And that's why I ordered them this week
post #397 of 1668
i will listen to the HE5 tomorrow at the NY meet and will ask Fang about their plans, if any, to offer a bal cable.
post #398 of 1668
What kind of break-in time are y'all giving the HE-5s? Doesn't sound like much is needed.
post #399 of 1668
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Originally Posted by sachu
...There are ways one could mod the HE-5 to be bass monsters, but in their current state i do agree that they don't can't do the lowest of the low octaves.
Some of my vintage orthos actually have greater impact as well, albeit after some modding.
However, i don't find them [the HE-5] lacking in bass either.
This is exactly the way I'd compare the old Fostex T50 to the modded Yamahas. Could H-D have chosen their tradeoffs in a way analogous to Fostex's when they came up with the NA-market T50 to appeal to the elettrostatisti ? This is a little like the Northrop engineers coming up with a flying wing (the B-2) eerily similar to the old YB-49 of 40 years before.
post #400 of 1668
Nice, vcoheda. I hope there's an EF-5 to test it with (and your impressions as well)!
post #401 of 1668
Skylab,
In addition to the the regular benefits of balancing, you should get a lot more 'juice' out of the Phoenix because of its design. SE out of this amp is anemic comparitively.

Sachu,
What bass mods could be done on this phone?

One idea for bass I had was trying wire that might add some heft. Someone reputable once described Mundorf hook-up wire as "bassy" with the drawback of being stiff. Definitely not meant for headphones, but could be fun.




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post #402 of 1668
My wallet and I hate you all.
post #403 of 1668
Does anyone know if the TTVJ FET-A is worth the extra ~$300 over the EF-5 for combination with the HE-5?

Was anyone able to test this combo by any chance in NY?

Looking for an amp for this thing under $650
post #404 of 1668
Honestly, buy a CK2III. It was outclassed only by some super high end SS amps at the meet.
post #405 of 1668
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Originally Posted by tintin47 View Post
Honestly, buy a CK2III. It was outclassed only by some super high end SS amps at the meet.
Or go outbound from the headphone amp needs and look at some vintage Receivers or Integrateds and achieve better performance still! Home amps will do these better....and cheaper than purpose building a kit! Unless Orthos are your only phone and Uber power is the Norm!
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