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post #346 of 1668
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Originally Posted by dBel84 View Post
heh - this is probably because most vintage orthos have near zero soundstage
Correct. My Yamaha YHD-1 has the uncanny ability to sound spacious and closed-in at the same time.

We also have to take into account the size of the drivers and the size of the images they create. It is my belief that large drivers make large instruments and voices. If you have a big room but fill it with large objects, it's still gonna be cramped.
post #347 of 1668
Here i present some thoughts I put down on the other site.

I sold the HE-5 for 3 reasons:

1> I have a very special and custom pair of headphones coming my way soon.
2> The LCD-2 is on the verge of being released.
3> The fact that the HE-5 wasn't tuneable makes it unappealing since there is no way to fix its flaws without which it would be very hard to justify the price considering that headphones costing a tenth of the price bests it at some crucial things

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INitial impressions are, no lack of bass for me for most tracks. SOme tracks I wish that it would just bring those bass notes a bit forward, but not a dealbreaker.

Mids are flawless but are voiced too forwardish to my tastes.

Running it out of the souped up EHHA and using a modified Assemblage DAC 2.6 for the source.

COmpared to the ID1, the HE5 has wider separation between instruments, more so than the ESP950 even. Better air and very resolving headpones. The ESP950 do have that touch of refinement though.

The ID1 though is still unmatched for being the best balanced ortho I have heard (apart from the bass hump of course.)

The ID1 surprisingly manages to keep up with the HE5 on many levels and isn't shamed at all. So I am not sold on spending 10 times the money on the newer ortho just yet.

They are very nice and better than the best of the vintage orthos i have heard and better than the LCD1 (At leasst the ones i have heard).

Very well finished and by far the best non stat deal out there..until of course if the LCD2 can do better.

The LCD-1s that I originally had was really well balanced out of the box..but still not as nice as my wharfedale ID-1. THe HE-5 is more top heavy than any of the other orthos. They are actually brighter than the ESP950. The mids are also voiced more forward than usual.

This is not the case with the ID1 or the LCD1 which have a flat freq response for the most part. The ID1 does suffer from some resonance in the mid bass..around the 100-250 Hz region but to my ears at least it is not seen as a detriment.

However, let me do make it clear that the HE-5 is the best ortho I have heard thus far. It isn't a natural presentation, i would call it colored for sure.
post #348 of 1668
Thread Starter 
Great insights Gentleman...keep em' coming! No, It won't dethrone my favorite phone, but the HE-5 does set the bar very high indeed at it's price point. Now, if we all can play nice!

Sachu! Do you have any pics of your Custom in development? That would be fascinating!
post #349 of 1668
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Originally Posted by achristilaw View Post
Sachu! Do you have any pics of your Custom in development? That would be fascinating!
All will be revealed when the creator/master craftsman is ready. Not too long I am told. Hopefully tomorrow
post #350 of 1668
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Originally Posted by sachu View Post
All will be revealed when the creator/master craftsman is ready. Not too long I am told. Hopefully tomorrow
so they will never be widely available (or the maker won't do other similar jobs) I assume?
post #351 of 1668
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Originally Posted by Silenced View Post
so they will never be widely available (or the maker won't do other similar jobs) I assume?
Don't want to derail the thread...Was only giving my reasons to sell the HE-5.. but yes it won't be available..hence i said custom made.
post #352 of 1668
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Originally Posted by sachu View Post
Other way to see this,

those with good amplification (myself and dBel84) have a resolving enough system to bring forth the peak in the headphone and those without aren't hearing the peaks.
Krell doesn't automatically gaurantee good sound quality. They are riding on their glory from the past two decades.

In any case, to say we don't have good amplifiers to drive the HE-5 or our other headphones without even knowing anything about them is irresponsible and doesn't do justice for all 3 products, the EHHA, Stacker and HE-5.

We reported what we heard, honor it as just that instead of making broad speculations on the rest of our system or our hearing abilities and presenting it as fact.

The HE-5 is a good headphone but no where near as the holy grail you make it out to be.
... all i said from He-5 is what i hear and try to be as honest as possible.Looking forward to impression from other Head-fiers who will probably hear them somewhere soon and let them decide wich place the He-5 takes in the headphone hierarchy.At least i have owned or own the HE-90 STAX 02,STAX 01,AKG 1000,HD-800 and Grado 1000 but maybe you know better
post #353 of 1668
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Originally Posted by thinker View Post
i will no respond to this , all i said from He-5 is what i hear and try to be as honest as possible.Looking forward to impression from other Head-fiers who will probably hear them somewhere soon and let them decide wich place the He-5 takes in the headphone hierarchy.At least i have owned the HE-90 STAX 02,STAX 01,AKG 1000,HD-800 and Grado 1000 but maybe you know better
Right, and all that equipment and knowledge without posting on Head-fi. Until now, of course.
post #354 of 1668
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Originally Posted by Ashirgo View Post
Right, and all that equipment and knowledge without posting on Head-fi. Until now, of course.
Maybe he's been too busy enjoying them..
post #355 of 1668
This thread is getting a bit trashy....come on guys, back to topic!
post #356 of 1668
So I guess the EF-5 is released...anybody going to bite to see how it pairs with the HE-5?
post #357 of 1668
I'm desperately waiting for a comparison between LCD2 and HE-5. I'm a little concerned about the debate about the peak and I think Zanth even mentioned them sounding a bit "thin", at least when compared to PS1000. I have the Linn Majik 109 stand-speakers and they produce the most natural and linear treble I've ever heard anywhere, so if I'm getting comments on the HE5/EF5 being an awesome bang for the buck and a natural combination, I'll probably bite
Oh yeah, pitches across the audio spectrum need to be accurate as well! I'd be thrilled if someone compared this trait between the LCD2 and these..
post #358 of 1668
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Originally Posted by electropop View Post
I'm desperately waiting for a comparison between LCD2 and HE-5. I'm a little concerned about the debate about the peak and I think Zanth even mentioned them sounding a bit "thin", at least when compared to PS1000. I have the Linn Majik 109 stand-speakers and they produce the most natural and linear treble I've ever heard anywhere, so if I'm getting comments on the HE5/EF5 being an awesome bang for the buck and a natural combination, I'll probably bite
Oh yeah, pitches across the audio spectrum need to be accurate as well! I'd be thrilled if someone compared this trait between the LCD2 and these..
The HE-5 isn't thin! The PS-1000 has a heavy mid-bass and heavier bottom ie. colored sounding....sorry Zanth! Lot's of folks like these colorations!
post #359 of 1668
Heh, that's fine. But the HE-5's are thin compared to most dynamics, nature of the beast! Still, the bass is more abundant on the HE-5's up into the mids than the HD800s. The highs though are their weak spot, both the PS-1000 and HD800 have highs that I prefer, except for the speed, the HE-5's are faster and airier, but they are also more forward and grainier than either the HD800 or the PS-1000 (to my ears etc).
post #360 of 1668
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Originally Posted by Zanth View Post
Heh, that's fine. But the HE-5's are thin compared to most dynamics, nature of the beast! Still, the bass is more abundant on the HE-5's up into the mids than the HD800s. The highs though are their weak spot, both the PS-1000 and HD800 have highs that I prefer, except for the speed, the HE-5's are faster and airier, but they are also more forward and grainier than either the HD800 or the PS-1000 (to my ears etc).
The He-5 sounds full and not at all thin and the bass is very well intergrated
and is not abundant at all and the highs are smoooooth and articulated,thats what i hear .
This means that we either have different headphones or the HE-5 will be the most amp related headphones out there, i dont see other conclusion.
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