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post #316 of 1668
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Originally Posted by thinker View Post
interesting...all who have heard the HE-5 with GOOD or right amplification they dont hear the peak and all who dont have heard the phone say it has the peak
I would really love to audition HE-5 with my rust and robust DIY amp and confirm that there is no peak in higher mids as others report (having heard it), but unfortunately it will take me months to raise enough money to afford them (hmm, unless I sell sth, that's an idea! ), being convinced that these cans excel in everything else.
post #317 of 1668
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Originally Posted by Ashirgo View Post
I would really love to audition HE-5 with my rust and robust DIY amp and confirm that there is no peak in higher mids as others report (having heard it), but unfortunately it will take me months to raise enough money to afford them (hmm, unless I sell sth, that's an idea! ), being convinced that these cans excel in everything else.
It's not entirely unheard of. The DT880 for example is very lifeless, slow and bright when underpowered (which seems to be common practice here)
post #318 of 1668
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Originally Posted by Ashirgo View Post
The credit for the measurements goes here: Google Translate
Hmm, 473g. That's 100g more than HD800, D7000. Some may find that a bit on the heavy side?
post #319 of 1668
building neck muscle a little at a time lol.
post #320 of 1668
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Originally Posted by Kabeer View Post
Sachu uses an EHHA and dBel84 uses a Stacker. Are these too weak?

i cannot make any opinion because they are unknown amps for me.
Somehow there is the feeling that the HE-5 is a solid stage amplification headphone ,at least i had this experience and with Singlepower and DIY OTL amps they sounded great but with KRELL balanced unbelievable.I will not advertise how easily the HE-5 outperforms the Senns and Stax etc. with the Krell amplification because its unfair i cannot hook the Senns and Stax with Krells up and make a comparison.I am in a situation at this moment where there seems no return to other headphones when asked wich is best.Looking forward to hear comments from achristlaw when he hooks the He-5 with First Watt.Speakin only for myself
post #321 of 1668
Better than Beyerdynamic T1 too?
post #322 of 1668
Since the T1 isn't shipping, almost no one has heard it.
post #323 of 1668
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Originally Posted by thinker View Post
interesting...all who have heard the HE-5 with GOOD or right amplification they dont hear the peak and all who dont have heard the phone say it has the peak
I will not enter into a battle of the amps, we have long known orthos rise to the occasion when driven by more powerful amplification. 70s mosfet/vfet amps have been the flavour in ortholand. I do know that I have heard a significant number of orthos and of all he orthodynamic headphones I have which perform admirably in comparison to the HE5 , none present this peak ( when driven by my amp ). They are not rolled off either - with proper damping they are everybit as airy as the HE5.

The properties that make the HE5 standout is not the speed or tone of the headphone - vintage orthos do this in gobs, it is the depth and expanse of the soundstage which allows the music to be articulated with such realism that it just envelopes you with the music. I thoroughly enjoyed listening to them and could live with the treble but I know it can be perfected with simple glass fibre and that is what irks me.

..dB
post #324 of 1668
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Originally Posted by dBel84 View Post
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The properties that make the HE5 standout is not the speed or tone of the headphone - vintage orthos do this in gobs, it is the depth and expanse of the soundstage which allows the music to be articulated with such realism that it just envelopes you with the music.
This fascinates me because it is their soundstage that I find their weakest link. Compared to any of my other headphones, they have the narrowest soundstage and the sound if often presented as a "wall of sound" although with such incredible inner detail and instrument separation that I dismiss the smaller envelope of sound.

For reference, I find that the HE5s put one closer than even the RS-1s with flats.
post #325 of 1668
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Originally Posted by dBel84 View Post
I thoroughly enjoyed listening to them and could live with the treble but I know it can be perfected with simple glass fibre and that is what irks me.

..dB
that`s good info wich should be adressed to Fang but somehow the sound is so great in this incarnation that i dont feel any reason to touch the phone
post #326 of 1668
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Originally Posted by Zanth View Post
This fascinates me because it is their soundstage that I find their weakest link. Compared to any of my other headphones, they have the narrowest soundstage and the sound if often presented as a "wall of sound" although with such incredible inner detail and instrument separation that I dismiss the smaller envelope of sound.

For reference, I find that the HE5s put one closer than even the RS-1s with flats.
heh - this is probably because most vintage orthos have near zero soundstage

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Originally Posted by thinker View Post
that`s good info wich should be adressed to Fang but somehow the sound is so great in this incarnation that i dont feel any reason to touch the phone
I am sure he is following along ..dB
post #327 of 1668
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Originally Posted by dBel84 View Post
heh - this is probably because most vintage orthos have near zero soundstage
Ah!

Still, despite this, I still think these headphones are incredible value for the money and the speed, air, excellent bass, air, did I mention air? Wow, well worth it.
post #328 of 1668
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Originally Posted by Zanth View Post
This fascinates me because it is their soundstage that I find their weakest link. Compared to any of my other headphones, they have the narrowest soundstage and the sound if often presented as a "wall of sound" although with such incredible inner detail and instrument separation that I dismiss the smaller envelope of sound.

For reference, I find that the HE5s put one closer than even the RS-1s with flats.
... i just had on hand the Chesky live recording and compared the He-5 and Senns HD-800 and Grado Gs 1000 together.Somehow power or current
pushes the "wall of sound" little bit away.There is a point with HE-5 wich is VERY interesting, Senns and Grados soundstage have always a certain "distance " but with He-5 there is the "wall of sound" sometimes but sometimes it also streches the soundstage even further away than Grados or Senns this is one of the amazing points wich i found with HE-5 it makes the whole performance somehow living it moves and have variations, i did mention earlier somewhere the "inner dimension" i dont know if you get it before you push enough current to the phone.I have 91DB speakers they play loud when the volume is switched on 10 and with He-5 the volume control is on 6.
so they need current
post #329 of 1668
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Originally Posted by Zanth View Post
Ah!

Still, despite this, I still think these headphones are incredible value for the money and the speed, air, excellent bass, air, did I mention air? Wow, well worth it.
Speaking of headstage, has anyone compared the headstage of the HE5 to the LCD-1? I think the LCD-1 headstage is fantastic, but that's also mainly compared to vintage orthos. (But also to the Sennheiser HD580.)
(maybe this was mentioned earlier?)
post #330 of 1668
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Originally Posted by Zanth View Post
This fascinates me because it is their soundstage that I find their weakest link.

For reference, I find that the HE5s put one closer than even the RS-1s with flats.
Sorry, but I have an extremely hard time believing this.

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Originally Posted by DefectiveAudioComponent View Post
Speaking of headstage, has anyone compared the headstage of the HE5 to the LCD-1? I think the LCD-1 headstage is fantastic, but that's also mainly compared to vintage orthos. (But also to the Sennheiser HD580.)
(maybe this was mentioned earlier?)
The modded LCD1 I heard definitely had smaller headstage than the HE5.
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