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post #1456 of 1668
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...marrying a beautiful woman with a great personality... But she doesn't have control of her left leg and sometimes unintentionally kicks you right in the groin.
Hey! How did discussing my wife get into this discussion?
post #1457 of 1668
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Hey! How did discussing my wife get into this discussion?
...She kicked me in the groin.
post #1458 of 1668
Sorry folks double post (*#!$&%! wireless connection...).
post #1459 of 1668
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The HE-5 is a like marrying a beautiful woman with a great personality... But she doesn't have control of her left leg and sometimes unintentionally kicks you right in the groin.
I "broke" her both legs...

Sibilance is all but gone and my "beautiful wife" does not kick as a mule anymore...
post #1460 of 1668
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The HE-5 is a like marrying a beautiful woman with a great personality... But she doesn't have control of her left leg and sometimes unintentionally kicks you right in the groin.
Ah, yes. The "crazy eights"
post #1461 of 1668
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But yes, we did indeed buy the HE-5 along with the knowledge that these were not perfect headphones. Since the first batch went out, there were people who listed issues with the wood, connectors, pads and some folks who had sibilance and annoying frequency hump issues. All of us who got on the second batch, were aware of these issues.
Yep I was aware that my HE-5 might have a cosmetic flaw and in fact it arrived with a ripped ear pad. But I had ample warning from this thread before I ordered. Still wanted it! BTW, I don't mind about the ear pad, I will just order a fresh set before I sell it.
post #1462 of 1668
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Yep I was aware that my HE-5 might have a cosmetic flaw and in fact it arrived with a ripped ear pad. But I had ample warning from this thread before I ordered. Still wanted it! BTW, I don't mind about the ear pad, I will just order a fresh set before I sell it.
Fang said he was sending me a replacement for my torn one almost 3 weeks ago, which made me happy , but I'm still waiting...
post #1463 of 1668
comments on this phone with the zana deux?
post #1464 of 1668
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comments on this phone with the zana deux?
It's very good with my ZDT, but haven't tried it on a ZD.
post #1465 of 1668
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Fang said he was sending me a replacement for my torn one almost 3 weeks ago, which made me happy , but I'm still waiting...
maybe it's on a boat on its way?
post #1466 of 1668
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maybe it's on a boat on its way?
I noticed that someone else who also had defective pads at the same time posted that he got his over a week ago, but I hope so...
post #1467 of 1668
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maybe it's on a boat on its way?
No... they ship EMS or UPS which are always by air. They just take a looooong time to process replacements and such.
post #1468 of 1668
I've been going back and forth between the HE-5 and HD800 and I can't pick which one I like better. I find myself bobbing my head more with the HE-5 (happens subconsciously) and I feel more involved in the music. It makes the music sound more realistic and closer than the HD800 without sounding closed in at all. In fact, as good as the HD800 is in this regard, sometimes I prefer the soundstaging of the HE-5. Overall, the HD800 is the more transparent headphone but the HE-5 are more fun to listen to the majority of the time.

Just want to reiterate how good a value these things are.
post #1469 of 1668
Just wanted to add my opinion to this interesting thread. I received my pair of HE-5 headphones last night and I am both amazed and a little dissapointed in them. I have a pair of recabled HD650 (Silver Dragon Recable) > Woo Audio 6 SE > PS Audio DL III Cullen IV, which has been my main rig for the past year. When opening the box, I was a little dissapointed by the build quality of these...def. feel like they were made by a smaller manufacturer and not the nice details you find in Denons of Senns. Also the cable just feels extremely cheap to the point of making these $600 headphones feel like $100 headphones. I know that this stuff shouldn't matter but the quality of headphones is very important to me. Maybe if I recable them, they might feel like higher quality headphones....

As for the sound, I am overall very impressed with the detail retreival of their phones. I was shocked after being so used to the 'veiled' HD650 sound for all this time. They def. feel more bright and aggressive compared to the HD650, but are a whole lot of fun to listen to. In jazz, classical, and instrumental music I definately heard more in the recording that I hadn't before (ie. instrument reverberation or much more subtle melodies in the background). As for listening to more Indie music such as Grizzly Bear and Beach House, I had the impression that the vocals took somewhat of a backstage to a lot of the melodies going on. I'm not sure if this would be helped with more burn in or a better copper recable (I don't think my Silver Dragons would be a good match to the headphones).

As for my amp, I feel like the Woo 6 SE has a lot of power to run these high volume (usually turnd about 12-1 o'clock), but as I get too loud I feel that the bass starts to distort slightly. Probably shouldn't be running them that loud anyhow...

So all in all, I am intrigued by the sound but am not sure if I can live with the build quality of these headphones. What are your opinions for all the other owner of HE-5's on Head-Fi?
post #1470 of 1668
Your bass starts to distort on the Woo because you are adding wattage, without doing anything about the inductance. That is why people are having so good symmetry with the HE-5's and the K-1000's with the EF-5.

I know that the K-1000's crave power, and the EF-5 puts out 2 volts at 32Ω.
Most headphone amps put out 1 volt or less, so cranking up the volume is going to induce low end distortion when pushing magnets in an ortho.
Not sure why a dynamic K-1000 sounds better, other than the fact that it likes lots of wattage.
The Woo Audio puts out < 1 watt depending on the load. Pumping up the volume isn't going to help you. My Luxman P-1 puts out 1 watt at 32Ω, so it's a good match for me.

The cable on the HE-5 is claimed to be made of very high quality wire (not sure what's in there), even though it doesn't have some fancy-schmancy sheathing surrounding it. Members have changed the cable with some good stuff and went back to the original OEM cable.

Looks can be deceiving, and the most important thing is the sound and comfort. Do you have a more powerful amp that you can try with them?
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