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post #1411 of 1668

Easy Foam Mod for the HE-5

For anyone who finds the HE-5 a bit bright, or those who seemingly received a bright pair, don't fret. I had some foam pad linings left from an extra set of DT990 velour pads I bought last year, so I cut them to size and stuck them in the HE-5. I'm not sure if just any foam pads would work, since the ones I'm using were specifically designed for this application in headphones. Not surprisingly, they made the same differences as they did in the DT990: less top end, more bass quantity (particularly upper bass and lower midrange), and a less airy soundstage. Aside from the last point, I think the differences are positive. It's all about trade-offs and priorities. If you feel the smaller, less holographic soundstage is worth taking the edge off the highs and increasing the bass, then this is a mod for you. I feel the bass may be a bit tighter too, but I'm not convinced yet.

The foam pads are not self-adhesive and stay put inside the earcups just with friction, provided you shape them slightly larger than the area inside the HE-5 earcups. The procedure literally takes seconds and is safe/easily reversible. I compared the sound with the pads off and on several times in quick succession over a period of 2 days before posting here, so I think I have a grasp on the differences. Long-term listening will reveal other important information that I may have missed. I'll post pics later, but the mod is really self-explanatory.


Above: original foam pads that I cut the periphery of to get them to fit inside the HE-5 earcups. The top 2 foam pieces are just the extra that I cut off the bottom circular pads and may be discarded.


Above: HE-5 earcup in stock form.


Above: foam pad inserted.
post #1412 of 1668
These 'phones seem to represent extraordinary value, and i have just found that there is apparently a UK dealer (AmpCity - The UK's headphone amp specialists - Home page - anyone dealt with them before?). The fact that people are comparing them, in some cases quite favourably, to 'phones costing a good deal more intrigues me. I know that at some point i would like to pick up some "different" cans to compliment my lonely RS1s, so if that dealer is kosher then they may well be hearing from me at some point in the future. My only reservation would be amping, as they would be run from a Woo6 - hopefully, being transformer coupled, it could power them satisfactorily.
post #1413 of 1668
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Originally Posted by Shahrose View Post
For anyone who finds the HE-5 a bit bright, or those who seemingly received a bright pair, don't fret. I had some foam pad linings left from an extra set of DT990 velour pads I bought last year, so I cut them to size and stuck them in the HE-5. Not surprisingly, they made the same differences as they did in the DT990: less top end, more bass quantity and tightness (particularly upper bass and lower midrange), and a less airy soundstage. Aside from the last point, I think the differences are positive. It's all about trade-offs and priorities. If you feel the smaller, less holographic soundstage is worth taking the edge off the highs and tightening/increasing the bass, then this is a mod for you. I'm not sure if just any foam pads would work, since the ones I'm using were specifically designed for this application in headphones.

The foam pads are not self-adhesive and stay put inside the earcups just with friction, provided you shape them slightly larger than the area inside the HE-5 earcups. The procedure literally takes seconds and is safe/easily reversible. I compared the sound with the pads off and on several times in quick succession over a period of 2 days before posting here, so I think I have a grasp on the differences. Long-term listening will reveal other important information that I may have missed. I'll post pics later, but the mod is really self-explanatory.
Any pics will be appreciated
post #1414 of 1668
apologies to those offended. When i said "army in its payroll", I meant it figuratively.
post #1415 of 1668
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Originally Posted by JIGF View Post
Any pics will be appreciated
Pics added.
post #1416 of 1668
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Originally Posted by Shahrose View Post
Pics added.
I see what you mean now. I did the same thing when I was messing around with my 325is for the same reason, and it worked. Now I am using bowl pads and have better amp synergy with those, so I took them out.

Continuing "initial musings":

The highs on my HE-5 are less bright now and smoothing out nicely. What I like about the bass is how well-defined it is, all the way down to the bottom of the audible spectrum. I would say now after a few hundred hours that their presentation is laid back throughout the frequency spectrum with a bit of emphasis in the mid-treble; they have lots of air and are quite detailed with a very wide but not very deep soundstage.

Looking forward to things smoothing out a bit more on the high end when I get my Mullard and roll it into my EF5.
post #1417 of 1668
i'm kinda pissed off now, I ordered 2nd day shipping 3 days ago and my order has not even been processed yet. I wonder when or if I will ever get my headphones. I know there are lots of people on here for whom a thousand dollars is nothing but for me it's a lot of money... I shouldn't be stuck in the dark wondering if i will ever get my headphones. i guess i should have remembered if they couldn't even ship my $40 order than why did i trust them with a $1000 order...
post #1418 of 1668
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Originally Posted by tvrboy View Post
i'm kinda pissed off now, I ordered 2nd day shipping 3 days ago and my order has not even been processed yet. I wonder when or if I will ever get my headphones. I know there are lots of people on here for whom a thousand dollars is nothing but for me it's a lot of money... I shouldn't be stuck in the dark wondering if i will ever get my headphones. i guess i should have remembered if they couldn't even ship my $40 order than why did i trust them with a $1000 order...
It took Head-Direct over a week to process my order (they also burned the headphones in during this time). Once you get the shipping notice though, it takes literally 2 days to arrive at your doorstep.
post #1419 of 1668
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Originally Posted by Shahrose View Post
It took Head-Direct a week to process my order (they also burned the headphones in during this time). Once you get the shipping notice though, it takes literally 2 days to arrive at your doorstep.
Good to know, still a bit nervous though. I ordered from their American web site and sent special instructions for it to be shipped to my Chinese address. So I hope it doesn't show up somewhere in America... you can understand why I'm nervous... sorry, just venting on here I guess
post #1420 of 1668
For anyone wanting to read, I posted a review with pics of these here: http://www.head-fi.org/forums/f4/hif...review-469246/
post #1421 of 1668
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Originally Posted by St3ve View Post
These 'phones seem to represent extraordinary value, and i have just found that there is apparently a UK dealer (AmpCity - The UK's headphone amp specialists - Home page - anyone dealt with them before?). The fact that people are comparing them, in some cases quite favourably, to 'phones costing a good deal more intrigues me. I know that at some point i would like to pick up some "different" cans to compliment my lonely RS1s, so if that dealer is kosher then they may well be hearing from me at some point in the future. My only reservation would be amping, as they would be run from a Woo6 - hopefully, being transformer coupled, it could power them satisfactorily.
Yeah, I bought an Audiotailor Jade from them a few weeks ago and just bought the HE-5/EF5 combo last week.- both times dealt with a guy called Yusuf who seems to be the owner. Replied to my emails within a few hours and kept me updated on the order status every other day or so... don't seem to have lots of physical stock atm but when I asked them about it they go that in the next month they should have stock... still the 1 and a half week delivery time isn't so bad and cause of the service and constant updates I can say it was worth it.
In any case cant wait for my HE-5s to arrive - I hope its as good as everyone says lol .... seeing as I'm getting the ef5 as well might put up my Jade for sale - now just need to decide on the which DAC to get - the choice is mind boggling! Might just go for the Pico on here: AmpCity - The UK's headphone amp specialists - Headamp Pico Portable USB DAC
post #1422 of 1668
Shahrose: Your foam mod looks very interesting. What would you recommend for someone who doesn't have DT990 pads lying around? What would be some comparable foam that can be bought cheaply?
post #1423 of 1668
Hello guys,

Just thought this would be some valuable information for anyone with an EF-5 and a HE-5... I just got a tung sol black glass tube and I did not expect such a difference from the RCA clear top, but wow, it has more of "tube" sound and does not sacrifice the top end sparkle at all... Very impressive, just when I thought It could not get better. Highly recommended tubes, amazing! Cheers!
post #1424 of 1668
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Originally Posted by MikePio View Post
Hello guys,

Just thought this would be some valuable information for anyone with an EF-5 and a HE-5... I just got a tung sol black glass tube and I did not expect such a difference from the RCA clear top, but wow, it has more of "tube" sound and does not sacrifice the top end sparkle at all... Very impressive, just when I thought It could not get better. Highly recommended tubes, amazing! Cheers!
I need to dig mine out of a box in the basement!
post #1425 of 1668
Quote:
Originally Posted by MikePio View Post
Hello guys,

Just thought this would be some valuable information for anyone with an EF-5 and a HE-5... I just got a tung sol black glass tube and I did not expect such a difference from the RCA clear top, but wow, it has more of "tube" sound and does not sacrifice the top end sparkle at all... Very impressive, just when I thought It could not get better. Highly recommended tubes, amazing! Cheers!
I really like my Mullard long plate for the same reasons and they can be found for much cheaper than the tung sols.
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