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post #1216 of 1668
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Originally Posted by toprock03 View Post
I ordered the phones Jan 1 and my credit card was charged Jan 3. I have had no update from headdirect and no response to my inquiry of a shipping date. What should my expectations be for delivery to here in Wisconsin? Ive heard about 4-5 weeks but am unsure


Thanks,
Adam
4-5 weeks was what it took for me. Tracking was worthless until they got in the U.S.

Zoide, chances are you'll like them more than your Edition 9's.

Wower, these may not be for you as they do rock and female vocals as well as anything I've ever heard, but they are not an ideal classical headphone. The sound stage isn't as bad as you might believe from reading this thread, certinly better than a Grado, and it really opens up with more powerful amplification. Still, it won't equal an HD800, much less a K1000. Actually, the K1000 sounds more like what you're looking for. I own both the HE-5 and the K1000. The He-5 is the superior rock headphone, the K1000 the superior classical headphone.

Most of the criticisms here are valid, but this is actually a very balanced headphone and to better it conclusively, you will have to spend a lot more money.
post #1217 of 1668
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Originally Posted by mudhole View Post
I got my HE-5s one hours ago and I couldn't wait to listen to them. I wouldn't expect to get a big surprise as I know the phones are not burn-in and I don't have an proper amp to drive them.( I am using a little dot MKIII now and my little dot MK VI+ will be here at the end of Feb.)

But I still have some questions on them. first, I can notice the volumes are imbalanced, the left cup is louder. Second the sibilance is very noticeabley. I know these phones have the sibilance issue if they are amped improperly, but my questions the sibilance is only (or more) from right cup. Has anyone experienced the same issue?

I am going to continue to burn them in and see what's happened. Sadly I have to wait for my MK6+ for another one and half month.
Sorry guys, after I using different amps (ibasso D4) and switching the LR plugs on he-5s, I figured out that the imbalance issue was not because of the headphones, it was coming out from my little dot MKIII! I have to contact to sword yang to solve this problem later.(another headache)

Now I only use the D4 to amp them. After about only 5 hrs burn-in , the SQ improved a lots, most sibilances and hums are gone and they already blow the HD650s far away. Much much more details I can hear from the highs and the bass was tighter than HD650, not over punched, perfect for my listenning style. It is worth with every penny I spent on this purchase. I can't image what a amazing sound will be after they are fully burn-in and powered by an proper amp.

BTW, now they use UPS doing the shipment, pretty fast. I placed the order on Sunday night, and the box was in front of my door on Firday.
post #1218 of 1668
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Originally Posted by FrankCooter View Post
Zoide, chances are you'll like them more than your Edition 9's.

[...] they do rock and female vocals as well as anything I've ever heard[...]The He-5 is the superior rock headphone
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Originally Posted by mudhole View Post
I figured out that the imbalance issue was not because of the headphones
So glad to hear all this! I'm very excited to get my HE-5 this week
post #1219 of 1668
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Originally Posted by mudhole View Post
Now I only use the D4 to amp them. After about only 5 hrs burn-in , the SQ improved a lots, most sibilances and hums are gone and they already blow the HD650s far away. Much much more details I can hear from the highs and the bass was tighter than HD650, not over punched, perfect for my listenning style. It is worth with every penny I spent on this purchase. I can't image what a amazing sound will be after they are fully burn-in and powered by an proper amp.

BTW, now they use UPS doing the shipment, pretty fast. I placed the order on Sunday night, and the box was in front of my door on Firday.
I hope to get mine this week. Thanks for comparing the HE-5 for the HD650. Your impressions are mostly what I expected and you covered the main things I wanted to see. However, could you check how deep the bass extends on the HE-5? One of my concerns has been the lack of extension, which I already feel on the HD650s relative to good speakers.

I suspect, from all I've read, that the bass on these won't go any deeper than on the HD650s, which is a bit disappointing considering their price tag. The bass quantity isn't an issue, the HD650 has a bit more than I feel is necessary for impact for example. I just want solid extension, as I really feel parts of my music are missing in the sub-bass region.

I'll confirm this on my own this week or next when I get mine, but if I can get an answer now, it would satiate my curiosity
post #1220 of 1668
Do the HE-5s present a radically different sonic character than dynamics? (I'm not concerned with the defination of radical, this isn't a semantic test, I'll interpet the response as needed.) Go wild.
post #1221 of 1668
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Originally Posted by wower View Post
Do the HE-5s present a radically different sonic character than dynamics? (I'm not concerned with the defination of radical, this isn't a semantic test, I'll interpet the response as needed.) Go wild.
It's definitely different than any dynamic headphones I have. Life like voices are almost chilling and bass is cleaner than any bass I've heard before (speakers included).

It is a very impressive headphone and if you have the budget, snag a pair. If you don't like them, I will eat a shoe and you could sell them on the FS forum for probably close to what you paid.
post #1222 of 1668
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Originally Posted by Landis View Post
It's definitely different than any dynamic headphones I have. Life like voices are almost chilling and bass is cleaner than any bass I've heard before (speakers included).

It is a very impressive headphone and if you have the budget, snag a pair. If you don't like them, I will eat a shoe and you could sell them on the FS forum for probably close to what you paid.
Like a gummy bear shoe, right? I would have said eat "a worm" because gummy worms are easier to find.
post #1223 of 1668
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Originally Posted by HeadphoneAddict View Post
Like a gummy bear shoe, right? I would have said eat "a worm" because gummy worms are easier to find.
I've been known to enjoy a loafer from time to time.

It's all about the kind of sauce you use.
post #1224 of 1668
Looks like I'll be able to answer all my own questions. I got the HE-5 today. I am pleasantly surprised by how fast Fang shipped these to me. I got the UPS message in my mail on Friday that they had been shipped in the morning (so 2 days ago), and they were at my doorstep this morning (Toronto, Canada).

Just for the eager beavers, I'll quickly make some points of what I've heard in the first 30 minutes or so. I won't post much about them thereafter until I've burned them in with 200 hours of pink noise.

-Bass extension is slightly less than the HD650s, as I expected.
-Less bass than the HD650 but, not by too much. Also has more sense of impact than the HD650 because of the way the treble sounds with the bass. I would say both convey a similar sense of speed (I think the HD650s with my setup are pretty fast) with the slight edge going to the HE-5 once again
-Treble is a bit harsh right now and I can't seem to pinpoint where in the frequency spectrum it is yet. It seems to disappear in some recordings so I need to investigate more.
-Midrange, although great, isn't a lot better than I'm used to. I think the HD650s are pretty much on par with them here, but a bit less clear and open. Speaking of open, the HE-5's redefine the term. I can almost listen to them with the cups inverted. But it also produces a nice airy sound which has been key in moulding my preference for open cans over the years.

The soundstage is larger than the HD650, but I really feel there could be a better sense of space if the treble was subdued a bit so the mids could be heard more.

Other notes: volume isn't even remotely a problem on my amp. I don't hear any signs of obvious underamping so far either. The cable length is perfect for me, not too long or short and it's not as microphonic as some have suggested. I personally think it's close to the same amount as the stock HD650 cable, which is very reasonable.

Overall build quality is pretty solid. The cans are aesthetically pleasing but very large (bigger than they seem in the pictures). Lastly, comfort doesn't seem to be an issue. I think they are nearly as good as the HD650s in that regard (with less clamp).

I'll update after 200 hours of deep frying with pink noise, after which I may or may not still have the same opinion of these cans.
post #1225 of 1668
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Originally Posted by wower View Post
Do the HE-5s present a radically different sonic character than dynamics? (I'm not concerned with the defination of radical, this isn't a semantic test, I'll interpet the response as needed.) Go wild.
Sibilance or not, bright or not - it is the most clear, distortion free and involving music I've heard from headphones ever. They even made me go through a whole Oasis album.

After roughly a month with them my headphone expectations changed completely. It demoted my reference phones to "not that bad" (K701) or "so so" (HD600 and W1000). All others fall into "s*it" and "gar*age". It's bye dynamics for me - I'm going ortho.

Disclaimer:
Be well aware that they will be as good as the rest of your gear is - they scale exceptionally high with exceptional source and headamp. They sound better than all my other phones through Paradisea+ and X-Can V2, but they sound unbelievably amazing through RE-1 and Roc.
post #1226 of 1668
I still don't know about Audio-gd. I dont have very good experience with the Chinese fighters. What they don't copy it is worth ****
haha just kidding man top models from Audio-gd looks very interesting enjoy your nice gear
post #1227 of 1668
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Originally Posted by Shahrose View Post
I hope to get mine this week. Thanks for comparing the HE-5 for the HD650. Your impressions are mostly what I expected and you covered the main things I wanted to see. However, could you check how deep the bass extends on the HE-5? One of my concerns has been the lack of extension, which I already feel on the HD650s relative to good speakers.

I suspect, from all I've read, that the bass on these won't go any deeper than on the HD650s, which is a bit disappointing considering their price tag. The bass quantity isn't an issue, the HD650 has a bit more than I feel is necessary for impact for example. I just want solid extension, as I really feel parts of my music are missing in the sub-bass region.

I'll confirm this on my own this week or next when I get mine, but if I can get an answer now, it would satiate my curiosity
I compared the bass between the HE-5 and HD650 tonight. I use foobar2000' WASAPI usb to my D4 and use the 9v battery to power the amp. I have to turn the volume to 11:00 for HD650 and 1:00 for HE-5 to get the same volume level. I played a pure Chinese drums music to get kind of pure bass.

Yes, the HE-5's bass extension is at the same level as HD650's or a little bit less. The quantity is less neither. But the bass quality is much better. It is more impacted, detailed and bouncy. I can "see" every little vibration of the drumhead. It is a well controled bass.

The HD650's bass is more relax and fat, sometimes I feel more comfortable and relax with HD650's bass.
post #1228 of 1668
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Originally Posted by mudhole View Post
the HE-5's bass [...] quantity is less neither
Do you mean the HE-5's bass quantity is less than that of the HD-650, or that it is similar?
post #1229 of 1668
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Originally Posted by Zoide View Post
Do you mean the HE-5's bass quantity is less than that of the HD-650, or that it is similar?

less but enough for me.
post #1230 of 1668
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Originally Posted by mudhole View Post
less but enough for me.
Ah, OK. I hope it's not too little for me, coming from the basshead Edition 9's. That said, a little bit of "brain burn-in" is inevitable when switching to any headphones
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