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post #1126 of 1668
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Originally Posted by HeadphoneAddict View Post
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The only ones more detailed than these are my HD800 and electrostatics. I posted previously that the HE-5 made my APS v3 HD600 or stock Grado HF-2 sound muddy or veiled. And I don't think even my APS V3 re-cabled RS-1 were quite this detailed, but they were closer.
This is what I meant. They are very detailed, just not extremely detailed.
post #1127 of 1668
Hey, has anyone try it with ß22 balanced?
post #1128 of 1668
How's the midrange on the HE-5? Is it forward/recessed/balanced? Is it full/dry/warm, etc.? How does the midrange compare with other dynamic headphones? (Specifically, how would it compare with the AD2000?)
post #1129 of 1668
It's certainly not like an AT in the mids. If you like ATs, they HE-5s will sound recessed, more so than the HD-800s. That is, the mids are a little less prominent than on my HD-800s with the gear I have, possibly because of the slightly more prominent bass and treble.
post #1130 of 1668

Complete Newbie interested in these cans

Happy New Year to all -

First off this is my first posting -this community is awesome and thanks in advance for your help!

I am completely new in the area of high end headphones. My current pair of headphones is a pair of Sennheiser HD457s which I think sound good (powered by my motherboard audio out jack), and my roommates pair of Grado 125s that I run through my Harman Kardon 3470.

I am looking to purchase the HE-5 and EF5 combo from head direct. For a source im thinking about running a dedicated PC and purchasing a soundcard and listening to Apple Lossless.

I guess my question is can I expect a large gain over my current experience with the 457s and the Grado 125? Also any general advice is also welcome.


Thanks Again!

-Adam
post #1131 of 1668
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Originally Posted by toprock03 View Post
Happy New Year to all -

First off this is my first posting -this community is awesome and thanks in advance for your help!

I am completely new in the area of high end headphones. My current pair of headphones is a pair of Sennheiser HD457s which I think sound good (powered by my motherboard audio out jack), and my roommates pair of Grado 125s that I run through my Harman Kardon 3470.

I am looking to purchase the HE-5 and EF5 combo from head direct. For a source im thinking about running a dedicated PC and purchasing a soundcard and listening to Apple Lossless.

I guess my question is can I expect a large gain over my current experience with the 457s and the Grado 125? Also any general advice is also welcome.


Thanks Again!

-Adam
You should see a huge improvement. Good amplification along with headphones that play way above their pricepoint, you should be very happy.

As for the computer - if you will do only headphone listening, save the money from the soundcard and spend it on a Nuforce uDAC. See this thread in the Sources forum for more info. I'm using it with some rather high end gear and for $100, it is an amazing sounding DAC. Couple it with lossless files and you will have a very good rig. IMHO.

Cheers,
A_Sr.
post #1132 of 1668
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Originally Posted by MikePio View Post
Sure Calvinjai,

To me the K701's always lacked a soul, they were cold and analytical, just pure surgical steel... Though they had amazing highs, a vast soundstage, and a fair amount of detail! (I still love them). The HE-5 breathe new life into the notes of the music that the K701's failed to provide, they are complete opposites in this regard. With the HE-5's the music is lush and weighted, organic like, almost living and breathing. The inner detail is far superior to the K701's, and the mids are just something else... I thought I would miss the vast soundstage of the K701's but to be honest, with the HE-5's the music is so intimate that a wider soundstage may diminish this phones special quality. As a conclusion, I love the K701's and will always keep them in my collection, but the HE-5's clearly do everything better. I hope this helps! Cheers,
Thanks for the impression! Sounds like they are what i'm looking for.
post #1133 of 1668
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Originally Posted by Currawong View Post
...the mids are a little less prominent than on my HD-800s with the gear I have, possibly because of the slightly more prominent bass and treble.
I don't understand how folks can have such polarized views of the HE-5's treble response. Some adamantly say they're smoother than the HD800s, atleast one member found them to be nearly equal in terms of brightness when compared side by side and you (and some others) have hinted towards a more prominent treble than the HD800s.

Either way, coming from the HD650s, I'm sure I'll find them a bit hotter up top than I'm accustomed to.
post #1134 of 1668
Has anyone who likes Edition 9's compared them to the HE-5? I read a few posts from people who *hate* the Edition 9's, but I'd like to know what the HE-5's sound like from the point of view of an Ed9 lover.

(I've read through 47 out of the 76 pages so far, so forgive me if this has already been answered...)

Thanks
post #1135 of 1668
Nice Shaq quote! I used to like the ED9, but my tastes changed. When I was into the Ultrasones, I would have liked the highs and mids of the HE5, but I wouldn't have liked the low end. Comparitively, you'll hear mid and high information that you'd never hear from the 9's. If you like the impact and bass of the ED9, I would venture that you would think the HE5's were sterile.
post #1136 of 1668
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Originally Posted by lmswjm View Post
Nice Shaq quote! I used to like the ED9, but my tastes changed. When I was into the Ultrasones, I would have liked the highs and mids of the HE5, but I wouldn't have liked the low end. Comparitively, you'll hear mid and high information that you'd never hear from the 9's. If you like the impact and bass of the ED9, I would venture that you would think the HE5's were sterile.
Thanks for the info. What made you move from the Ed9s to your current cans? What's the type of music you listen to the most?

I've heard some people compare the HE-5 to the RS-1, which I used to own and love dearly. Perhaps that means I wouldn't find the HE-5's sterile?

The other factor is amplification. Has anyone tried the HE-5 with a Meier Corda Opera or other Meier solid-state amp?
post #1137 of 1668
I started to hear the low end as coloration. For me it was impinging on the other frequencies. I've moved up the Denon line, and doing mods to find the right balance for me. Currently, I really like the highs and mids of the HE5, but I need more dynamics and bass weight, especially in the classical genre. I'm seeking middle-ground between the D7000 and the HE5.
post #1138 of 1668
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Originally Posted by shampoosuicide View Post
How's the midrange on the HE-5? Is it forward/recessed/balanced? Is it full/dry/warm, etc.? How does the midrange compare with other dynamic headphones? (Specifically, how would it compare with the AD2000?)
http://www.head-fi.org/forums/6225971-post710.html

One point I don't mention in that post is that the AD2000 has significantly more mid-range in general compared to the HE-5. Coming from the AD2000, the HE-5 might sound thin in comparison.
post #1139 of 1668
Hmm.... all this talk about the HE-5 potentially sounding thin is worrisome. Has anyone compared them vs. the Ultrasone Edition 9's for rock?

Thanks
post #1140 of 1668
I feel it's a matter of what you're using to drive it; on my Travagan's, the mids sounded full but the bass was rolled off and had very little weight to it, then upon giving it a go on my EF5, they were really made full sounding. Mids didn't change too much, but the highs and bass were a night and day change.

The HE-5s are a shapeshifter at times; they can pack a punch like my Beyers when appropriate, but tame themselves when the time is right; I'd like to think of that as an accurate presentation of sound reproduction. With interests in a wide variety of music, I couldn't think of a more appropriate combination than an HE-5 and EF5 combo.

To put the amp requirements of the HE-5 in perspective, my K601s (a rather needy pair of headphones) sounds amazing out of my Travagan's in comparison to the dull and unengaging sound they produce out of my HT Omega's integrated amp and I don't hear a notable change while connected to the EF5, whereas the HE-5s are display a jaw dropping night and day difference between the Travagan's and the EF-5.

If your amp doesn't pack a serious punch, then I don't feel you're getting the whole HE-5 experience!
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