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post #1111 of 1668
Sure Calvinjai,

To me the K701's always lacked a soul, they were cold and analytical, just pure surgical steel... Though they had amazing highs, a vast soundstage, and a fair amount of detail! (I still love them). The HE-5 breathe new life into the notes of the music that the K701's failed to provide, they are complete opposites in this regard. With the HE-5's the music is lush and weighted, organic like, almost living and breathing. The inner detail is far superior to the K701's, and the mids are just something else... I thought I would miss the vast soundstage of the K701's but to be honest, with the HE-5's the music is so intimate that a wider soundstage may diminish this phones special quality. As a conclusion, I love the K701's and will always keep them in my collection, but the HE-5's clearly do everything better. I hope this helps! Cheers,
post #1112 of 1668
That is a thought, the EF-5 with K701s one might have predicted as a nice combo, with the K701s requiring some power to sound very good.

Anyway, just out of interest, i plugged the HE-5s into the headphone socket of my old Luxman LV-103u and connected that to my Onkyo SACD player. The result was surprisingly good. The bass wasn't as strong as it is in my regular rig, detail wasn't all there and the soundstage was narrower, but considering that the Luxman + Onkyo cost me around $500 (the Luxman was $100!) and my regular rig costs 6x that I was quite surprised.

I do think that, ultimately, they aren't tremendously detailed, but the presentation so far strikes a nice balance between delicacy and airiness and good impact.

All these things, including the burn-in make me suspect whatever electronics are embedded in the headphones themselves are responsible for some or all of the above.
post #1113 of 1668
Just ordered mine. I'm anticipating the possibility of long wait times, sibilance, fragile wooden earcups, and faulty connectors.

Hopefully there are no other unpleasant surprises I should have to worry about.

On a more serious note, could someone who owns both the HE-5 and HD650 briefly outline how they compare? I will be selling one of the two.
post #1114 of 1668
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Originally Posted by Currawong View Post

I do think that, ultimately, they aren't tremendously detailed, but the presentation so far strikes a nice balance between delicacy and airiness and good impact.
Well put, IMO.
post #1115 of 1668
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I do think that, ultimately, they aren't tremendously detailed
Huh? These are the one of the most detailed headphones I've listened to. I hear things in a manner I've not previously heard. The music locks together properly at all frequencies. Vocals are spookingly real. Instrumental tone is believable and the bottom end has some air and transparency around it while remaining solid. That's what "detail" means to me.
post #1116 of 1668
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Huh? These are the one of the most detailed headphones I've listened to. I hear things in a manner I've not previously heard. The music locks together properly at all frequencies. Vocals are spookingly real. Instrumental tone is believable and the bottom end has some air and transparency around it while remaining solid. That's what "detail" means to me.
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post #1117 of 1668
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Originally Posted by Beagle View Post
Huh? These are the one of the most detailed headphones I've listened to. I hear things in a manner I've not previously heard. The music locks together properly at all frequencies. Vocals are spookingly real. Instrumental tone is believable and the bottom end has some air and transparency around it while remaining solid. That's what "detail" means to me.
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The only ones more detailed than these are my HD800 and electrostatics. I posted previously that the HE-5 made my APS v3 HD600 or stock Grado HF-2 sound muddy or veiled. And I don't think even my APS V3 re-cabled RS-1 were quite this detailed, but they were closer.
post #1118 of 1668
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Originally Posted by Shahrose View Post
Just ordered mine. I'm anticipating the possibility of long wait times, sibilance, fragile wooden earcups, and faulty connectors.
............

Man that's one of the best anticipations for a new pair of headphones I've ever heard!!!
post #1119 of 1668
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Just ordered mine. I'm anticipating the possibility of long wait times, sibilance, fragile wooden earcups, and faulty connectors.
The earcups on mine don't swivel very far or fluid like Grados (like not 180 or 360 degrees...more like 5 degrees). When twisting to adjust the cups, be careful to turn them at the screw point to avoid snapping the plastic beneath the cosmetic wood covering with the "L" and the "R".
post #1120 of 1668
mine don't really feel all that easy to brake my 3 year old niece used them as a play toy while i wasn't watching pulling on the plugs and trying to pull them apart b/c i wouldn't let her listen to them.
post #1121 of 1668
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Originally Posted by momomo6789 View Post
mine don't really feel all that easy to brake my 3 year old niece used them as a play toy while i wasn't watching pulling on the plugs and trying to pull them apart b/c i wouldn't let her listen to them.
Seems like it would have been better to let her listen to them.
BTW, I see you've owned the HD6x0 and the HD650 in particular. Could you enlighten us as to how they fare against the HE-5?
post #1122 of 1668
hd6x0 series were my least favorite reference headphones i have owned. but in their defense i never played them off my phoenix / re1, i used a mini matrix dac / headphone at that time but then again my d7000s sounded good off it.


my niece liked my la7000s and i let her ware them before i sold a few days ago but with the he-5s she tried to eat the wire and kept scratching the headband and then got mad every time i told her not to and would pull my jh13s wire.
post #1123 of 1668
Botched double post.
post #1124 of 1668
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Originally Posted by Beagle View Post
Huh? These are the one of the most detailed headphones I've listened to. I hear things in a manner I've not previously heard. The music locks together properly at all frequencies. Vocals are spookingly real. Instrumental tone is believable and the bottom end has some air and transparency around it while remaining solid. That's what "detail" means to me.
X3. They also rock with an authority unlike any headphones I've ever heard,
post #1125 of 1668
Well I must say that the EF5 definitely does take the HE-5s to the next level. On my Travagan's, the mids sounded heavenly but the highs and bass were a little recessed and rolled off, but with the EF5 they sound fully pronounced and in very good balance with the mids.

The HE-5 is clearly above any headphone I currently own.
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