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post #1006 of 1668
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I'm curious about those who ordered the HE-5 / EF5 combo if they received them together or in separate shipments.

I received my HE-5s today, but no amp!

Also, I haven't bothered to try the HE-5s on my Travagan's as I know it can't power it correctly, but would it be a good idea to hook them up to it for initiating burn-in or do I risk damaging something if continually under powering it? I understand dynamic headphones can take damage from underpowering, but not sure about orthos!
My post from the Head-Direct sponsor forum (if anyone here can answer any of those questions, that would be fantastic). Curiosity got the best of me and I decided to give the HE-5s a shot with the Travagan's.

These things are great in terms of sound quality, comfort (much lighter and less clampy than my DT770s, but not quite as light and comfortable as my K601s) and design? Oh man, don't get me started about that one or I might have to cut off my ear and mail it Fang!

Sibilance is very very mildly present. And by mildly, I mean kind of like how a chicken is mildly like a cow... But not really... I don't know where I was going with that. Definitely the first thing I looked for given the numerous folks who pointed it out, but I was very surprised to find that off an amp, which I doubt can properly power it, is not displaying huge amounts of it where people like Sachu and Tim, who have much better components than I, were overwhelmed by it. I'm willing to bit that with the extra push the EF5 will be able to give it over my Travagan's, the sibilance will be nonexistent with this pair.

I just want to point out that I love what this headphone does with guitar and acoustic especially. I was impressed going from my DT770 to K601 in that same area of change, but this is a whole different level; listening to some Michael Hedges, it's just flabbergasting the way you're able to feel as if you're the one playing the guitar. Violin is very liquid sounding, but I'm not sure if I'm going to easily warm up to that as right now I prefer the sound of violins, fiddles, cellos and so on from K601.

With my current set up, these fellas are relatively forgiving with poor recordings or lossy audio.

Now for the part that erks me; the connectors to the headphone. I've read that I had to be gentle while connecting them and then fastening them, which I was and feel that they are on securely, but movements cause the cable to short out a little which results in crackling and channel loss. I'll be fooling around with this for the next little bit, but I have a bad feeling this might be something that will often get on my nerves and may ultimately require me purchasing new cables if not getting them internally wired to the drivers.


If this headphone was a woman, I'd bring her home to meet my parents and maybe after she left me, I'd carve a picture of her into my chest. But with all my romancing skills aside, I definitely feel off the bat that this one is a keeper and I can't wait for my EF5.
post #1007 of 1668
awesome thanks for posting. But please don't ever carve anything into your chest. The damage could be permanent.
post #1008 of 1668
Okay, I think I've gotten the connectors snuggly in place!

Just took some strategic fondling with a thin pair of needle-nose pliers.
post #1009 of 1668
The internal nut will turn when over torqued but you have to work against that resistance to get a tight fit. I was thinking plumbers tape might keep the connection but it would make it hard to take off as well. You have a connection now but use will most likely loosen after time and use.
post #1010 of 1668
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Originally Posted by dBel84 View Post
same as before but with an integrated EF5 for best sound? Solar powered and blue tooth for optimum portability..dB
I'm laughing so hard my House was shaking...you funny Man!!
post #1011 of 1668
Between some phones having sibilance, most others not, and now this potential issue with the connectors, can a current HE-5 owner tell me whether they think that there might be a quality control issue? I ask this question as a serious potential buyer, and with all due respect to Fang.

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Originally Posted by Landis View Post
Now for the part that erks me; the connectors to the headphone. I've read that I had to be gentle while connecting them and then fastening them, which I was and feel that they are on securely, but movements cause the cable to short out a little which results in crackling and channel loss. I'll be fooling around with this for the next little bit, but I have a bad feeling this might be something that will often get on my nerves and may ultimately require me purchasing new cables if not getting them internally wired to the drivers.
post #1012 of 1668
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Originally Posted by CherryBomb View Post
Between some phones having sibilance, most others not, and now this potential issue with the connectors, can a current HE-5 owner tell me whether they think that there might be a quality control issue? I ask this question as a serious potential buyer, and with all due respect to Fang.
The sibilance could just be due to variations between each pair and all headphones are prone to such variations; others have said that using the EF-5 fixed their sibilance. The connectors are not bad at all.
post #1013 of 1668
The connectors work but if you unscrew and re-attach several times, you see what the problem is. Very few have an issue with the HE-5 and is has many more proponents than detractors. Fang thinks my pair is brighter than normal but that is not definite yet. As little time as I have had here on Head-Fi, even I (with my issues with this headphone) realize that the problems are over emphasized- most love this headphone.
post #1014 of 1668
I think I will definately order a pair in mid-January.
post #1015 of 1668
News Flash! Crackling can be eliminated by tightening of the cable fasteners. My HE-5s can now be driven (not well mind you) by both my Marantz receiver and Sonic Frontiers Line 3 SE without crackling! I'm extatic as they already sound better than both my SR225 and AKG701. This is approximately 5 hours of burnin. Can't wait for my wa22 to arrive!
post #1016 of 1668
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Originally Posted by tim3320070 View Post
The connectors work but if you unscrew and re-attach several times, you see what the problem is. Very few have an issue with the HE-5 and is has many more proponents than detractors. Fang thinks my pair is brighter than normal but that is not definite yet. As little time as I have had here on Head-Fi, even I (with my issues with this headphone) realize that the problems are over emphasized- most love this headphone.
yeah, at this point we are just nit-picking. They can't be perfect for everyone, it's just not possible. Also it has been mentioned that many headphones which are the same model sometimes sound different from each other. Good job Fang.
post #1017 of 1668
Hi,

Does ANYONE know if the Gilmore Lite will properly drive the HE-5?

Thanks
post #1018 of 1668
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Originally Posted by baka1969 View Post
Does ANYONE know if the Gilmore Lite will properly drive the HE-5?
I'd say It will drive them.

How?
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Originally Posted by Nankai View Post
EF5 can get 2 watt non-distortion output per channel on both channel at 32ohm. EF5 can easily get more than 1 watt non-distortion output at 8 ohm.
Not like this, I'm afraid: GLite specs state 1W output power at non-disclosed impedance. EF-5 give 2x2W at 32 Ohm and 1W at 8 Ohm.

So, you will be able to listen to HE-5 through GLite, but not to their full potential.
post #1019 of 1668
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Originally Posted by FauDrei View Post
I'd say It will drive them.

How?

Not like this, I'm afraid: GLite specs state 1W output power at non-disclosed impedance. EF-5 give 2x2W at 32 Ohm and 1W at 8 Ohm.

So, you will be able to listen to HE-5 through GLite, but not to their full potential.
Darn, I really wanted to try the HE-5 with my setup.
post #1020 of 1668
It'll sound good with the HE-5, which really doesn't need that much power (a full Watt would probably blow your eardrums out) and the output impedance of the Gilmore Lite is <= 0.1 ohms which is great for the HE-5.
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