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post #1 of 13
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I have not been a member here for very long (obviously) and yet it has become clear to me that members with low posts counts, recent join dates or a small number of headphones listed in their signature are frequently attacked here.
I have gotten by fairly smoothly so far, with only a few posts that have been replied to and I shudder to think what responses I may get in the immediate future. I am not one to particularly overreact to something that occurs on the internet, however recent events have shown people committing acts of self mutilation in response to cyber-bullying.
My first thread

Here we see that I have made a typo in the head of the thread - either by mere folly of hands or whatever: the cause is irrelevant. We see that it took a total of two two posts before being ridiculed for my mistake. The post in question

I do not blame this man for his post, it was almost witty in its presentation - however I merely wish to use it as an example of the attitude most new members appear to be greeted with.

Following this we see a post regarding presumptions on my knowledge of audio link 1 and link 2. I don't pretend to be an expert in these matters however these people go out of their way to suggest that I am totally ignorant in these matters in a passive aggressive way; preaching from predetermined responses as if they are gospel rather than providing me with some answers to what I was actually asking for help with.

Keep in mind, of course, that if I had a large post count, a join date of 2007 and four headphones in my signature that I would have not received this response - and instead probably received the help I was asking for.

JH-13 Review

Here we see a comment about a review I made regarding the use of one particular hyperbole ("Listening to the JH 13 Pro is like transcending time and space into a realm of sound and clarity that rivals most dreams I’ve had. ") in large, bold letters that deducted from the otherwise great review. And yet in a single post we see this come under scrutiny - a man suggesting that I could not justify that this was 'hyperbole' simply because I have not heard the equipment in question.

We then see the insinuation that what I had to say about the hyperbole in question was irrelevant because of my recent join date with the explicit statement "You are new here". Whilst a statement of fact - the undermining method in which it was used to 'support' arguments agaisnt what I had said was unnecessary.

This was then followed by scrutiny of my opinion of a member with a recent join date - however with a larger post count than mine. As seen here. Admittedly several posts earlier I made a remark relating to a sound effect CD that perhaps undermines what I am trying to establish here - but that was a light hearted joke at the enjoyment of sound effects - something many audiophiles can relate to (much like the 'I figured someone with the name Mr. Green would have no trouble understanding that.' remark from a thread linked earlier). However, the remark about "stop trolling" was a total and absolute attack on my character.


I don't expect special treatment because I am new - I expect, want and demand the opposite. I will acquire extra knowledge in my own time (and you have no method of gauging my knowledge before getting to know me) and you don't need to spoon feed new members simply because they are new. Let alone attack them in such a blatant way as the final member had - a member who could also be considered 'new' and perhaps a product of the praxis that exists here where the new are ostracized by the old.

Perhaps I am being excessively picky, but I would hate to see someone do something stupid over something so petty. Like it or not, it is a problem that needs to be addressed.

I hate to do this as a newly registered member, however this is a general reminder that join date, length of signature and post count do not relate to knowledge in any significant way.

MrGreen out.
post #2 of 13
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mrgreen, i think you might have meant a can of pears?
A joke?

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Are you considering your whole system, and what each headphone requires (amp, source)?
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Ditto - to do justice to your music and choice of cans , you will definitely be needing to look at a proper headphone amp to drive those phones, a DAC to bring out your source which hopefully is lossless.
Trying to give you info? And trying to prevend you from buying phones that needs an amp to work at its best.

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This would have been a better review without blatant hyperbole.
"Listening to the JH 13 Pro is like transcending time and space into a realm of sound and clarity that rivals most dreams I’ve had. "
I mean, come on
You did not heard them, so how could possible give this opinion?
I did not have 'dream' feelings with el cheepo iBuds before i got my AD700s, so yeah. That 'realm' is real, imo.


Imo, you are overreacting..
post #3 of 13
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Originally Posted by MrGreen View Post
I hate to do this as a newly registered member, however this is a general reminder that join date, length of signature and post count do not relate to knowledge in any significant way.
although:

sometimes join date means that you are new to the hobby, and small signature (profile) length means that you have experienced little to no equipment, and low post count means that you have no impressions or conclusions about any of the gear being discussed in the forum.

i would say the burden is on new members to show people that despite the above, they can add to the discussion.
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Originally Posted by miloxo View Post
Imo, you are overreacting..
I hate to be green, but would you say the same thing if I was an old, revered member posting about the experience of a new member on head-fi?

It is important to remember that even the most respected members here were once new. My case is particularly light compared to some quarrels between new members (other than the label of myself as 'troll' which IMO was way overboard), however I do not have the time or interest to stalk an individuals experiences for something that should be praxis.
post #5 of 13
TL;DR

If you don't like cyberbullying, then get of the internet. Although most of the stuff that's happened to you was basically a joke (If I came in here and misspelled a word I know that it would probably get pointed out at my expense). That said there are times that people around here can be donkey bottoms, and you just have to deal with it.

x2 on overreacting.

EDIT: If a guy with a ton of posts and had been here for a while came in here and made this thread, with the same problem, we would probably be a lot harder on them.
post #6 of 13
OMG KONAKONA MADE A TYPO!!!!!

Seriously, MrGreen. Deal with it.

Perhaps a lot of your negative response comes from your first thread, an average, monotonous 'what do you recommend' thread. I'm sure that with a quick search you could've found impressions on all three cans, perhaps even a head-to-head comparison.
post #7 of 13
I believe you are overreacting a bit.

If you want to use the internet, and post on message boards, I'm afraid you will need to develop a bit of a thick skin, otherwise the internet is going to eat you alive.

As for your comment: "join date, length of signature and post count do not relate to knowledge in any significant way" - I couldn't agree more. Everything (and I mean everything) posted on an internet message board should be taken with a grain of salt. Whoever said "believe none of what you hear, and only half of what you see" really knew what they were talking about. This is internet/message board 101 stuff here.

P.S. Don't ever bother visiting Southern NJ, or New York City - you would probably be curled up in a fetal position, sobbing softly in a corner somewhere within 1 hour of interacting with the inhabitants of those locales...


In case you didn't realize, let me (preemptively) point out that I am saying all of this with tongue firmly placed in cheek... sort of.

Welcome to Head-Fi, sorry about your wallet.

Edit: Forgot to mention, if there are members here at Head-Fi that bother you with their posting etiquette, or cyberbullying, I would highly recommend the ignore feature. You can find it under "User CP -> Edit Ignore List". It is a wonderful feature of this message board. In all of the years I have been participating on this message board, I have only had to put 1 person on my ignore list, and it was quite a glorious day to make that person (and all of his posts) go away. Just a suggestion !
post #8 of 13
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Originally Posted by logwed View Post
OMG KONAKONA MADE A TYPO!!!!!
What? Where?
post #9 of 13
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Originally Posted by MrGreen View Post
I am not one to particularly overreact to something that occurs on the internet, however recent events have shown people committing acts of self mutilation in response to cyber-bullying.
Source?
post #10 of 13
KONAKONA, you said to "get of the internet" instead of get off the internet.
post #11 of 13
overreaction doesnt begin to describe it!

a pear of cans / can of pears joke was just BEGGING to be made! it is quite funny, and most people in your situation would have laughed at it as well, instead of taking offense.

further, the "you are new here" comment probably meant that, while you accurately recognized the hyperbole of that review, you are not aware that it is quite commonplace right now to praise the JH13's as god's gift to man. i do not believe that poster was trying to put you down. think of it this way: "Why does the taco stand in this town smell like poo?" "You must be new here"


heed lmilhan's advice, and utilize the ignore feature. it works wonders


finally, if you do feel the need to self-mutilate, i recommend you get off of these forums right now, and call a therapist. it is not worth perpetuating those kinds of feelings, to listen to us rant about headphones
post #12 of 13
I also think you are overreacting a bit. If you look around we jab, sometimes hardly, at each other all the time but it is all with tongue in the cheek and good fun. Actually when I saw your thread title I thought it was intentional joke which I found amusing, and I'm sure so did analog'd (or suspect so anyway), hence the witty jab.

Also I fail to see how in the hell Boomanas and charliex responses could be inapproriate? You are knew, we know nothing of what your experiences so obviously first thing we do is start from the basics. How else? 9/10 people around here know very little about hifi equipment, let alone headphone category of that.
post #13 of 13
Thanks for the reminder Green, thread closed.
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