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Stick with TRS? recable time

post #1 of 15
10/12/09 at 8:48pm
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Well its time to recable ye ole q40's. Im also making a mini3 in a custom case at the same time. Im using Mogami W3106 dual wire due to the unique q40 wiring scheme. Should i stick with a normal TRS connector or should i go for a XLR connector or something? Im still including 1 TRS in the front panel, but i wasnt sure with all the people using silver wire and depleted uranium connectors if a cable end would help or not.
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post #2 of 15
10/12/09 at 11:49pm
What's the point of going with the XLRs?
Do you have any balanced amp?
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post #3 of 15
10/13/09 at 2:48am
everyone should go with a 4-pin XLR, regardless of whether they build their amp single-ended or balanced.

if youre bothering to DIY, you might as well use a superior connection that will prevent any chance of shorting out the amp
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post #4 of 15
10/13/09 at 3:01am
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Originally Posted by El_Doug View Post
everyone should go with a 4-pin XLR, regardless of whether they build their amp single-ended or balanced.

if youre bothering to DIY, you might as well use a superior connection that will prevent any chance of shorting out the amp
x2!
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post #5 of 15
10/13/09 at 12:43pm
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Originally Posted by El_Doug View Post
everyone should go with a 4-pin XLR, regardless of whether they build their amp single-ended or balanced.

if youre bothering to DIY, you might as well use a superior connection that will prevent any chance of shorting out the amp
x3
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post #6 of 15
10/13/09 at 1:42pm
x4

Wanna buy a bumper sticker?



se

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post #7 of 15
10/14/09 at 2:33am
x5

I actually agree with Steve.
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post #8 of 15
10/14/09 at 9:30am
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Uh now the question is should i go with a 4 pin or a standard 3 pin? There are premade trs to 3pin xlr adapters so that is a standard. And im using a unbalanced amp with only 3 points.

I assume i should stick with female on the amp and male on the can.

Is this going to help with sound quality any? From what ive read, the extra contact area can boost mic levels by 6db over long runs and reduce noise, but they say at headphone levels the signal is so strong and short it doesnt help much.
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post #9 of 15
10/14/09 at 12:52pm
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Uh now the question is should i go with a 4 pin or a standard 3 pin? There are premade trs to 3pin xlr adapters so that is a standard. And im using a unbalanced amp with only 3 points.
The primary advantage of a four pin XLR is that it eliminates the common contact resistance that you have with either a three pin XLR or a TRS (though the contact resistance of XLR pins is usually rather less than for a TRS).

That would be of benefit even with an unbalanced amp because it allows you to take the left and right "ground" leads separately back to a single, low resistance soldered connection.

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Is this going to help with sound quality any?
It reduces crosstalk, if crosstalk is something you care about reducing.

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From what ive read, the extra contact area can boost mic levels by 6db over long runs and reduce noise, but they say at headphone levels the signal is so strong and short it doesnt help much.
That has to do with balanced interfaces. If your amp is unbalanced, it's rather moot.

se

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post #10 of 15
10/14/09 at 12:58pm
The only real choice for hardcore audiophiles is 2x 1/8" TS.
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post #11 of 15
10/14/09 at 1:14pm
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The only real choice for hardcore audiophiles is 2x 1/8" TS.
Actually, its 2x 2.5mm TS. I know. I'm a hardcore audiophile.
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post #12 of 15
10/14/09 at 1:15pm
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The only real choice for hardcore audiophiles is 2x 1/8" TS.
all the cool kids use quad banana plugs
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post #13 of 15
10/14/09 at 1:39pm
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all the cool kids use quad banana plugs
Real audiophiles hardwire their headphones to the amp.
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post #14 of 15
10/14/09 at 1:49pm
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Real audiophiles hardwire their headphones to the amp.
DAMN! Beat me to it!

se

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post #15 of 15
10/14/09 at 10:45pm
If you are thinking about going 3 pin, you might as well go 4 so that you already have your phones balanced in case you ever take your setup in that direction. I am probably going to use a 4pin on my 3 channel beta 22, just because if I like it enough I am going to sell the 3 ch. one and go balanced.
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