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Connecting your iPod to a DAC via Toslink

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I know there is a thread here on the new Onkyo transport ( http://www.head-fi.org/forums/f7/onk...d-dock-437889/ ), but I wanted to make a couple of iPod-specific points that had previously escaped me in the heat of the moment:

- unlike the photos I've seen of the Wadia, the Onkyo has USB, coaxial and SP/DIF digital outputs. For those of us with a DAC like the Topaz, this could be an answer to our prayers.

http://a6.vox.com/6a00b8ea0678dedece...13ae860f-500pi

- bypassing the DAC on the Classic will neatly circumvent a lot of the hot air around which has the better SQ of the current (or future..) slew of iPod/iPhone models. It won't be perfect, as the review below points out, but I'm expecting a substantial improvement over the standard DAC when I route the signal to the Topaz (the V-DAC is another unit that I'm considering in the future).

Onkyo ND-S1 iPod dock etc review - from the experts at whathifi.com

- from the Topaz, I can connect to any amp that takes RCA connections : no messing around with LOD cables etc, and subsequent upgrades will be able to take advantage of the fact that I can take a digital signal, bypass the iPod DAC, and push it to anything in the house. No juggling CDs, no looking around for bits and pieces - just leave the iPod in the dock and party on !

None of the above makes sense for portable (or even 'luggable') use, but for a bedroom rig it makes total sense to me : everything should sit neatly on a bedside table without 8 or 9 power cords dangling beneath. Obviously, the tried-and-true DAP+iBasso/Corda/HeadRoom portable amps still have an advantage for anything you want to take on the road, but I already have my Sony for that.

I suspect that my netbook would fill much the same role, with an even bigger hard drive, but I have tried it with the Topaz and the SQ result just isn't as good as it is from my Marantz (I don't want to get into a debate on jitter, but that may be the culprit - I dont expect that Asus spent a lot on the audio in this machine). Add issues with audible hum and the fact that it feels warmer than I'd like after several hours use - not my first preference. I also prefer to use TOSLINK over USB - again, I expect that will provoke some debate, but there you go. I just like the red light at the end of the cable

Even if the AUD price is 3 times the 150 pounds quoted in the review (and it shouldnt be given the strength of our dollar, but ours is a tiny market), I consider it a bargain. Nothing beats hearing the thing in action, but I have a friendly hi-fi store owner here in Brissie who already stocks the Wadia : should be a doddle to get an audition before Xmas.

Hope to be able to return with some feedback early in the New Year.
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interesting, another serious brissie Head-fier, we should hook up and listen to gears?? i'll have my Buffalo32 dual mono cased up shortly, I know of another couple guys too; you keen?? which audio store you talkin about?? I might have to drop in there, but that i'm really that interested in the docks, due to having a pretty substantiual range of options already, but he might have something else that interests me.

i'd be interested in hearing your Sony 1060X as well, dont know if you've heard DIYMOD->VCAP (and I actually have a far superior dock as well) and iriver->D10->Lisa III, but you cant try my JH13 well I guess you could try
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qusp, I think we could definitely get something happening the way of a meet if we could find a venue - there are several other headphone fans at Headphonics who are keen for something like this to happen - but it all comes down to a venue. I dont know how many of us are keen to have a horde of strangers come to our home and start plugging kit into every available powerpoint

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You will need to take David as you find him - he doesnt mince his words, and some of his opinions mightn't gel with yours. He doesnt seem to have any particularly strong opinions on headphones - has a few pairs of AKG phones and thats about it - but I'd probably tread warily until he gets to know you. He's fairly easy going about auditioning, but I wouldnt ask to hear everything in the shop. He has some seriously expensive kit, but understands that we dont all own a Ferrari. In my case, I was pretty clear about what I wanted to hear and he was happy to oblige, particularly as he didnt have to wire up any speakers.
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