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post #1216 of 1712
i had the clicks when changing tracks too when i set foobar to 24bit or 32bit playback.
when i set it to 16bit the clicks are gone.
post #1217 of 1712
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i had the clicks when changing tracks too when i set foobar to 24bit or 32bit playback.
when i set it to 16bit the clicks are gone.
This seems to have done the trick. Thanks! Seems like I'll have to revert back to Kernel Streaming for now then (ASIO4ALL doesn't give me an option to switch it).

Now, what to do with my 24bit music and that pause it gives on KS when switching tracks...
post #1218 of 1712
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Review of jkeny's modified hiface

For those that are interested, I posted my impressions on Jkeny's hiface on a separated thread. See here: http://www.head-fi.org/forums/f7/rev...hiface-483900/
post #1219 of 1712
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Before, I could hardly distinguish properly upsampled 16/44 to 24/96 from the native 24/96.
Would you care to share how to "properly upsample" in your opinion? I believe you suggest to use SoX, but what settings exactly do you recommend? Thanks in advance.
post #1220 of 1712
Looks like a good thread. Gotta read it someday.
post #1221 of 1712
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Would you care to share how to "properly upsample" in your opinion? I believe you suggest to use SoX, but what settings exactly do you recommend? Thanks in advance.
I think that the specific settings I use with SoX are very subjective. In fact, depending on the DAC being used, I end up choosing different settings: usually, the Minimal phase setting and lowest passband settings give the smoothest results.
My guess is that upsampling from 16/44 to 24/96 with intermediate phase is the closest to the original 24/96. But it depends on the digital filter being used by the dac.
post #1222 of 1712
slim, i grabbed the hiface on your advice, and it just arrived today.

First impressions in my mind in the first 20 mins of listening was ... what the fxXk....
what the heck was I listening to before I got this little thing?!
resolution has become so much clearer, my dt880/600's felt alive!!
impact in all frequencies was increased, most noticeable was the lower end for me. everything felt more airy when listening to vocals (michael buble), switched to infected mushrooms' "riders in the storm" and "frank", it felt so much fuller and thicker, the sounds of the rolling thunders in the beginning of riders in the storm gained so much more weight, as did the sounds of the rain. the edges of the soundstage became clearer and a little wider, and a bit more depth too, more grip.

Ok, more of everything, the end.

now i can't wait to compare this with a better spdif cable.

granted, this is what I'm hearing compared with the onboard realtek spdif out that i'd been using, but this thing was definitely worth it for me.


I'm not going to keep rambling on because I'm not sure this is the right place for it (is there a hiface appreciation thread?).

Once again, thanks slim~
post #1223 of 1712
Going back to the whole digital coax cable sonic differences y'all were talking about earlier in this thread; I've been trying two different coax cables with my hiface so far... both are cheapos but designed VERY differently. They are:

1) A cheap Philips one I bought locally for $9, seen here: Amazon.com: Digital Coax Audio Cable: Electronics

2) "Legend Supreme" brand cable I bought recently at a warehouse sale for $20: Legend Supreme Series Composite Audio Cable 2M [LEGEHT-81] - $28.00 Canada : electronicsforless.ca : Always fast, always easy!

Even though both of these are cheapos, there is a big difference in their build quality; the Philips version looks VERY cheap, are terminated with cheap looking plugs and uses a basic thin shielding around the core (then covered by a very cheap looking clear rubber sheath). Meanwhile, the Legend Supreme one looks very respectable... it's got a VERY sturdy, thick plug, with apparently quad shielding around its core (consequently the cable itself is about 2 times thicker than the other one!). Upon trying both of these in my hiface -> DA100 -> Gilmore Lite -> RS1 setup, you can hear MUCH bigger and better soundstage, detail, bass, and separation with the Legend Supreme cable. The Philips meanwhile sound very thin, lacks detail and is harsher at the top, and sounds overall very cheap. I was surprised at the finding since I always believed that a digital cable like a coaxial would not have any sound quality differences between them... but I noticed here that even with two very cheap ones, a lot of differences could be heard with my mid-fi setup. This makes me wonder if other expensive coax cables would bring about even more differences, but I can't really imagine getting a much better built one than the Legend Supreme one, TBH... it seems to pretty much meet all the requirements I heard earlier in the thread of a "good" cable (multiple shielding, right impedence, good connectors, high purity) so I'm thinking there's really no point in going any further... what y'all think?

Anyways, yeah... very surprised at how much differences there were between them using the hiface.
post #1224 of 1712
You should try the Apogee Wyde Eye next. I think tubaman may still have a 2M for sale in the cables, etc. FS forum(I recently purchased one from him) and IMO for the
price it is very good. Almost as good in my system as the XV2, and hands down better than the BJs 1694A. I am referring to SQ and not build quality.
post #1225 of 1712
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I've been trying two different coax cables with my hiface so far...
Trying in blind tests or... ?
post #1226 of 1712
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Trying in blind tests or... ?
No, didn't do anything like that at all. I don't have the facility, time, and well... simply can't be bothered to do such a thing... not worth it on my end. If I hear a difference then I do, and I hear it here. I don't expect everyone else to agree or anything of course, and not going to argue against it being placebo... so if you find the whole notion ridiculous, by all means do ignore my post.
post #1227 of 1712
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If I hear a difference then I do, and I hear it here.
Ok, if not blind tests, then maybe measurement results? Jitter can be measured, you know...
post #1228 of 1712
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Originally Posted by ironmine View Post
Ok, if not blind tests, then maybe measurement results? Jitter can be measured, you know...
This isn't the science forum, lay off the demands.
post #1229 of 1712
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This isn't the science forum, lay off the demands.
I totally agree with Shahrose, this is not the sound science forum. K_19 should be able to choose his components and cables based on his subjective listening and his personal preference. He doesn't have to submit himself to any double blind test or spend thousands of dollars on measuring equipment to prove that the difference he heard is valid.

@ ironmine: I have already posted the following many times (including on the opening post), but here is a reminder of the forum rules once again:
http://www.head-fi.org/forums/f46/do...-forum-450574/
post #1230 of 1712
ironmine: I do understand that you may be skeptical (hell, so was I until not long ago) with the findings, but my intention and purpose here was to just share my experience and nothing more... and people can derive from that whatever they want. And although I do keep an open mind and consider scientific methodology and results, as Sharose and slim.a pointed out we shouldn't be talking about DBT stuff or measurements here anyway.
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