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post #46 of 53
10/5/09 at 9:28pm
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god bless her
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post #47 of 53
10/5/09 at 9:33pm
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Originally Posted by Justin Uthadude View Post
I remember switching from asio4all with mediamonkey to wasapi with xmplay and was blown away, but it was the particular combos and not asio vs wasapi.
ASIO4ALL is an ASIO>KS wrapper.

proper KS should be bit-matched, bit-perfect and run in exclusive mode, that's what m$ says and that's how it works on my current board
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post #48 of 53
10/5/09 at 9:47pm
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god bless her
Thanks.

I like the "WOW" factor you're talking about. I can sometimes get it with no change of software or equipment. I can be listening to a song and think, "where's the bass?" and then another song comes on and I think "hey these little Grado SR60s have awesome bass"

I think it all really does go back to what do your ears like? If it sounds better, it is better.
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post #49 of 53
10/5/09 at 10:27pm
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Originally Posted by chinesekiwi View Post
It's more ~85% mark tbh. Asus Vista drivers (including sound drivers) for example don't work on Win7.
Even in compatibility mode? From my experience, ASUS's drivers use a simple operating system version check but they work fine. The Prelude just needed a slightly tweaked driver to tell it to bask in the greatness of Windows 7 and it worked perfectly (they now have official W7 support too, but the latest version has some issues...).
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post #50 of 53
10/5/09 at 11:37pm
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I think it all really does go back to what do your ears like? If it sounds better, it is better.
EXACTLY !!! And that's the quibble I have with some conversations on these boards once they devolve into the --- are you sure you're hearing it? is it measurable? it's just the placebo effect? --- familiar routine

Unfortunately even with the greatest objective, man made measuring equipment and testing methodologies, GOD happened to imbue each and every one of us with a unique set of monitors (ears, cochlea, anvils, hairs) and auditory processors in our brains (http://www.news-releases.uiowa.edu/2...903poremba.GIF) making such discussions, at times, comical, and others, counterproductive, and, worse yet, moot

the ability to perceive and differentiate component changes is always an issue, but it is, or should be, a given in this arena ... perhaps a sticky should appear on each forum with something to the effect ... "Subjectivities are a given in sq analysis, particularly with respect to ic, pc, software, and other component changes, so please keep any such conversations to a minimum." As a disclaimer, I too am guilty of from time to time going down the primrose path of pissy argumentation but please (and this is not directed at you justin)
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post #51 of 53
10/6/09 at 12:01am
JB-
I've played classical guitar off and on for 30 some odd years. I remember one particular lesson with the maestro years ago where I had perfected a certain Bach fugue, of which I was extremely proud of myself. After playing it for him, he said, "you played the notes perfectly...., now let's learn the music." I was crushed. You see, there are some things you can't measure (no pun intended).

P.S. Were you finished with this sentence?
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As a disclaimer, I too am guilty of from time to time going down the primrose path of pissy argumentation but please (and this is not directed at you justin)
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post #52 of 53
10/6/09 at 9:06am
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Originally Posted by SemiAudiophile View Post
the KS plugin seems to suck out the warm midrange and makes things sound clearer. this could be good/bad thing depending on what you prefer. i'm using one of the warmest tubes i have with the RS1i and the midrange isn't as sweet and warm as it used to be...
I would say kind of a harsh sound which is close to the default windows direct sound,
btw, have you found it louder then the ASIO sound?
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post #53 of 53
10/6/09 at 4:39pm
the highs seem to extend further but they don't sound harsh to me. i did not find it to be any louder than ASIO. since yesterday, i had a hard time deciding whether or not i like the sound from KS, it does sound somewhat better but its too solid state like for my taste. every tube i've rolled sounded the same. since then, i've switched back to ASIO. i could see why it will sound good on the HD650, since it takes away a bit of that midrange warmness and perhaps lessens the veil.
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