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Grado iGi First Impressions

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Thread Starter 
I currently own Etymotic ER-6is (L ch out) and some Shure SE310s (R cable cracked). In the past I've owned Jays q-Jays, Phonak PFEs, ER-4s, and some other in-ears. I also own some AKG K601s and some Alessandro MS-2is and love them both for different things. I've owned RS-1s and SR-80s on the full size side. I really like the Grado sound.

I do have a little mini3 amp and have had a Tomahawk and an RA-1 in the past. The mini3 is charging right now. So I'm listening to the Grado iGis. Unamped out of my iPod classic. The source material is all 320 kbps AACs.

I'm not terribly impressed with them so far.

I've been listening to Brahms Double Concerto with Julia Fischer and Daniel Muller-Schote on Pentatone. I've also been listening to Duke Ellington and John Coltrane. Both piano and large orchestra reproduction seems veiled. Think HD555. These phones are missing the clarity of the Etys/q-Jays/Shures. Chord separation on the Brahms isn't great. The cello reproduction sounds fine, slightly warm, but the solo violin sounds more distant than with the ER-6i/SE310s.

Low frequency reproduction is kind of insane! It's definitely more in amplitude than the ER-6i or the SE310s, almost sounding like hip hop phones. On Get By by Talib Kweli, I find it to be slightly muddy in the lower frequencies when it was not so on the others. This is confirmed by listening to A Little Max (Parfait) on Money Jungle with Duke Ellington, Max Roach, and Charles Mingus. Mingus' bass notes are not as crisp as they were on the ER-6is or the q-Jays. I think Roach's drums sound really good on these phones. The piano sounds "correct," in these tracks, very close to other phones.

The female soloist in "Der Holle Rache kocht in meinem Herzen" on Mozart's Die Zauberflote by the Bavarian State Opera comes through clear, unveiled, and beautiful in tone and range.

Fit and finish: they look/feel kind of cheap to me. None of the tips really fit well; they all feel like they will fall out at any time and do not give much of a seal. Three-flange Ety tips (my preferred on all my phones) are the saving grace for fit on these. Time will tell if they can put up with my apparent mishandling of phones.

Anything you would like me to explore and report on, I'll do my best.

Gear mentioned in this thread:

Etymotic Research ER6i Isolator Earphones (White)
Shure SE310-K Sound Isolating Earphones (Black)
Grado Prestige Series SR225i Headphones
post #2 of 29
@unclejr
I don't know if you have tried comparing iGis with Klipsch Custom 2 or Klipsch Image S4. I currently own Custom 2 which are pretty good considering I got them for 75bucks where they used to be 200!
BUT I own a pair of Grado SR225i at home driven through an EMU 0202 and the result is just superb! And the I miss it in the earbuds !
I was wondering if you could give me a reason to upgrade/shift from my existing Custom 2s to iGis. As probably everyone out there, I would love if the iGis have the much loved "Grado" sound, atleast the basic sound that sr60s are famous for!
None of other earbuds I have tried so far in the price range perform well with vocals/highs and the bass is either pounding or muddled.
Thanks!
post #3 of 29
How does the Soulive sound?
post #4 of 29
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Originally Posted by chetan View Post
@unclejr
I don't know if you have tried comparing iGis with Klipsch Custom 2 or Klipsch Image S4. I currently own Custom 2 which are pretty good considering I got them for 75bucks where they used to be 200!
BUT I own a pair of Grado SR225i at home driven through an EMU 0202 and the result is just superb! And the I miss it in the earbuds !
I was wondering if you could give me a reason to upgrade/shift from my existing Custom 2s to iGis. As probably everyone out there, I would love if the iGis have the much loved "Grado" sound, atleast the basic sound that sr60s are famous for!
None of other earbuds I have tried so far in the price range perform well with vocals/highs and the bass is either pounding or muddled.
Thanks!
I might be picking up a pair of the S4s soon out of sheer curiosity. I guess Grado Sound to me is about a small soundstage, slightly rolled off highs, warm but accurate mids and quality but not great quantity in the low frequency. On further listen these seem boomy and veiled, dominated by the low frequencies.

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Originally Posted by mritt400 View Post
How does the Soulive sound?
I like my Soulive funky, but the lack of clarity and boominess of these IEMs is really off-putting. I listened to a couple of tracks (Aladdin and So Live!), but I didn't care for either of them on the iGis. I guess I could let them break/burn in, but the fit problem isn't going away (they just don't fit securely), so I'm getting rid of these myself.
post #5 of 29
oh dear, not the kind of response i was hoping for.
post #6 of 29
Hmmm...I was really hoping for the Grado sound in a tiny little package. No Grado sound?
post #7 of 29
Part of the great Grado sound, involves being as open-aire as possible IMO. So I don't think it fits well in the schema of an IEM, even though the best IEMs have tremendous performance.
post #8 of 29
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Originally Posted by dongringo View Post
Hmmm...I was really hoping for the Grado sound in a tiny little package. No Grado sound?
Not at all, I'm afraid
post #9 of 29
Bummer!
post #10 of 29
Finally, somebody has something to say about the iGi, even if it's negative. I think a lot of us wanted the Grado IEMs to work but were wondering why Grado took the turn it did. Sennheiser's foray into the market - with dynamics - may have influenced Grado's decision to go dynamic instead of BA.

Does the iGi try to follow the Grado strategy of an open-air chamber, to minimize resonance? Or is this just like something you'd see at Walmart, but with the Grado name on it?
post #11 of 29
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Originally Posted by Bilavideo View Post
Sennheiser's foray into the market - with dynamics - may have influenced Grado's decision to go dynamic instead of BA.
or maybe they wanted to cash in on a growing IEM market?
post #12 of 29
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Originally Posted by dongringo View Post
Hmmm...I was really hoping for the Grado sound in a tiny little package. No Grado sound?
id say try the FX500, not that im overly experienced with grado and i do seem to hear the fx500 differently to most but still thats my suggestion.
post #13 of 29
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Originally Posted by Bilavideo View Post
Finally, somebody has something to say about the iGi, even if it's negative. I think a lot of us wanted the Grado IEMs to work but were wondering why Grado took the turn it did. Sennheiser's foray into the market - with dynamics - may have influenced Grado's decision to go dynamic instead of BA.

Does the iGi try to follow the Grado strategy of an open-air chamber, to minimize resonance? Or is this just like something you'd see at Walmart, but with the Grado name on it?
I'm pretty sure you're only referring to the iGi using a dynamic driver, but if I recall correctly, the GR8 uses a circular armature driver similar to Siren (perhaps similar to the one shown halfway down this page: ヤシマ電気株式会社?).

Anyway, I remember ClieOS criticizing the design of the iGi since it appears to be using a generic housing out of the communal Chinese parts bin. It does look strangely similar (but not exactly) to a certain product you'd find at Walmart.
post #14 of 29
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Originally Posted by mark2410 View Post
id say try the FX500, not that im overly experienced with grado and i do seem to hear the fx500 differently to most but still thats my suggestion.
I really appreciate the suggestion. I'm just a little leary of the FX500 because I've been reading that they are too bass heavy. Is this true? All I can do is go by what people are saying. What is your opinion of the bass?
post #15 of 29
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Originally Posted by dongringo View Post
I really appreciate the suggestion. I'm just a little leary of the FX500 because I've been reading that they are too bass heavy. Is this true? All I can do is go by what people are saying. What is your opinion of the bass?
i thought that too. people always talking about its bass i assumed it would be massively abundant but its just so not. it is however extremely deep. i was astonished when i first listened to them, i so expected thunderous amounts of bass but it was a far more treble happy sound.

of all the IEM's ive heard its easily the closest to the 325is i have
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Gear mentioned in this thread:

Etymotic Research ER6i Isolator Earphones (White)
Shure SE310-K Sound Isolating Earphones (Black)
Grado Prestige Series SR225i Headphones