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post #16 of 25
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many thanks to all of you for your help. i have been looking around based on your suggestions. stax seem to be the most promising option to me. i am fine with getting a used amp but i would rather new headphones since headphones wear and tear much more rapidly than an amp or speakers ever would.

i think my options are:
2050 system. how much of an improvement is this?
303 headphone + used amp. nice but a decent amp will be hard to find for a good price. any suggestions?

my current setup is:
oppo cd player > little dot II+ amp > akg k501 headphone
post #17 of 25
Don't buy an E-stat without testing it before, beware, an E-stat is not everybody's cup of tea. Although most of them provide an impressive performance in technical aspects, there are many who miss a certain "emotional something" and keep their dynamic rig.

That is, of course, a question of listening habits and preferred genres. If most of your stuff tends towards the "serious" department (classical, jazz), E-stats should be perfect for you.
post #18 of 25
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Originally Posted by nickchen View Post
Don't buy an E-stat without testing it before, beware, an E-stat is not everybody's cup of tea. Although most of them provide an impressive performance in technical aspects, there are many who miss a certain "emotional something" and keep their dynamic rig.

That is, of course, a question of listening habits and preferred genres. If most of your stuff tends towards the "serious" department (classical, jazz), E-stats should be perfect for you.
well i have heard stax' a few times and was in awe of their sound quality but i could not compare them to anything else when i listened to them so it is a bit hard to judge what is the recording and what is the headphone.

i listen to music from from jazz to blues, rock and metal. i listen to pretty much anything that has a guitar in it (i am a guitarist). stats may not seem like a primary choice for those styles but i am used to hearing the speed and definition of electrostatic speakers (quads). this is why i find the k501s lacking in those departments.
post #19 of 25
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Originally Posted by kool bubba ice View Post
DT48 or K1000.. K1000 will give you better instrument placement, 3D imaging, a more pleasing sound, & set you back about 1,000 more..
x2 for the DT48E. I never thought it could get better than a K501...until i heard a DT48!
post #20 of 25
I'd be keen to know why AKG dont still offer the K501/K1000 on an 'order only' basis : I was blown away by how good the 501 is, and the K1000 is about the only headphone on this forum that doesnt seem to have as many critics as admirers. I cant remember the last time I saw someone question whether the K1000 lives up to its reputation - can you say the same of the various A-T, Senn and Beyer flagship models ? (dont even get me started on the pastings routinely handed out to various Grados ....)
post #21 of 25
AKG couldn't sell their remaining pairs at the full price of $1400. Why would they bother?
post #22 of 25
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Originally Posted by estreeter View Post
I'd be keen to know why AKG dont still offer the K501/K1000 on an 'order only' basis : I was blown away by how good the 501 is, and the K1000 is about the only headphone on this forum that doesnt seem to have as many critics as admirers. I cant remember the last time I saw someone question whether the K1000 lives up to its reputation - can you say the same of the various A-T, Senn and Beyer flagship models ? (dont even get me started on the pastings routinely handed out to various Grados ....)
The K1000 are in that magical legendary status.. (Although hybrid headphone/speaker) Would love to own to a pair to compliment my DT48, but they are so hard to drive for maximum enjoyment.
post #23 of 25
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Originally Posted by estreeter View Post
the K1000 is about the only headphone on this forum that doesnt seem to have as many critics as admirers. I cant remember the last time I saw someone question whether the K1000 lives up to its reputation
Actually, I'm not a big K1000 fan. Too airy, it's like a super K501, IMO everything is enhanced- the positive along with the negative. And yes, I've heard the out of the biggest and baddest amps.

Honestly, the K1000 was a more controvertial headphone before it was discontinued. It's the best example I can think of for what "vintage" status does to a phone. Also, a few years ago, the grado HP1000 was disliked by many people because it's so linear in it's response, people thought it was boring coming from other grados. But I haven't seen a negative post about them in a while. Not to negate other people's love for the K1000, I'm just saying that their "weaknesses" (if you feel they are weaknesses) are glossed over by their out of production status

I still think that the stats are the best option for you, OP (if you don't get the K1000 ). Because I think the stats and the K501 both share similar weaknesses to my ears (lack of body, impact, bass) and if you're happy with your K501 in that regard, then those same things won't be a problem for you with stats. Stats also improve on the slightly shrill quality of the K501 not to mention everything else the 501 does well .
post #24 of 25
I saw pictures on here of the k1000 dissembled to be re cabled. I saw that there is what looks like a small capacitor that is not considered high quality.
post #25 of 25
Guys, I'm not about to tell you that the K501 is the greatest headphone ever made, but lets recap what I paid for each my main phones (Aussie dollars, and all bought locally):

SR325is - $500
K601 - $430
DT440 - $289
HFI-550 - $250
K501 - $199

Sure, who in their right mind pays those sort of prices for headphones, even when the AUD was back at .65 USD, but my point is that I consider them incredible value for money. The DT440 also blow me away, but cost another hundred over the K501 - as far as I'm concerned, I got a great deal. By contrast, the K701 would set me back $700, not to mention the cost of the amp needed to drive them.
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