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post #91 of 1468
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Originally Posted by headfever View Post
My friend have just got his T51 and I have few minutes with it. It is a black one looks roughness from the side to back. The face of it looks very simple, have no extra design except a power switch (too small to press), even no logo printed on the face. It is really bulky and heavy. About 100Gram. The back cover is made up of paint coating aluminum.

The stock earbud is very inferior. it is no a problem for audiophiles, for they have lot of rest other phones.

The sound quality is very personal subjective. So above review is worth to respect. To my ear. I don't want to give too much conclusion, for I am not an audiophile. all in a word, with the designning of 5 "cores" and with two wolfson DACs, i expect the sound could be much better.

There are still have no veteran core audiophiles full reviews. I also want to read it as soon as possible. I hope my first impression was wrong.(too brief to listening to it). For I really can't resist the temptation of the low price and can get a line out function.
nothing wrong posting your own comments. at least there is some review.
get some good source and earphones or headphones to test it out !
if possible, try its line out also. thanks ! haha
post #92 of 1468
Thanks for the encouragements.

To the new brand (model), We should be more mercy than not be picky with our habit on the sound quality of our existing gears.

T51 is really deserved to get our applauses for the creation of 2 DAC solution. PLus the 3.5 inch touch screen and line out. in my knowledge, T51 is the first model that Teclast attempts to share the audiophile market. At least Teclast have made their efforts to have a new "5 cores" conception and provide us with a bigger touch screen and line out, I think Teclast have shown us their serious attitude to their customers.

I really don't want to give too details comments on sound quality, it is too personal taste. if you really want to guess the sound quality, it's price has implied what you pay, what you get. I mean, it worth that price.

And I believe, if Teclast has the following model (T52?), the sound quality must could be better.
post #93 of 1468
headfever - What is the equipment you use with the T51? [Amps and phones] and what are you comparing it too?

What kind of music do you listen to and what are the characteristics of that player's sound? [neutral/natural/balanced/warm/cold/analytical etc...]
post #94 of 1468
Yeah, I will do a review emediatelly when I get it in my hands. I use Sennheiser IE8 and ATH-ESW9. I do not have an amp yet, but soon I will buy one too.

I am kind of addicted buying DAPs , that is why I still do not have a good amp.
post #95 of 1468
The aforementioned Teclast T56 will not be similar to the T51. It promises 1080p from a Telechips 8900-series chip. RAmos T11 TE is the same player internally as these companies buy off-the-shelf solutions and package them to their own designs. RAmos announced the T11 TE as having a Wolfson WM8988 for processing the audio, so it's safe to bet that the Teclast will feature the same.

If the T56 ends up looking like the promotional renderings, RAmos should sell lots of the T11 TE. RAmos has also been showing a pretty good-looking Flash-based UI for the TE, which is quite a departure for them and should help distance it from the Teclast, a company long known for coming up short in the firmware department.
post #96 of 1468
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The aforementioned Teclast T56 will not be similar to the T51. It promises 1080p from a Telechips 8900-series chip. RAmos T11 TE is the same player internally as these companies buy off-the-shelf solutions and package them to their own designs. RAmos announced the T11 TE as having a Wolfson WM8988 for processing the audio, so it's safe to bet that the Teclast will feature the same.

If the T56 ends up looking like the promotional renderings, RAmos should sell lots of the T11 TE. RAmos has also been showing a pretty good-looking Flash-based UI for the TE, which is quite a departure for them and should help distance it from the Teclast, a company long known for coming up short in the firmware department.
interesting.. wolfson wm8988 is the new chip right? RAmos looks good for a video player with andriod OS.
post #97 of 1468
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interesting.. wolfson wm8988 is the new chip right? RAmos looks good for a video player with andriod OS.
Not really; WM8988 is considered "4th Generation" by Wolfson. It's an update to the WM8987, which has been by far the most popular chip used by Chinese manufacturers in recent years...in the Teclast T50, for a relevant example. By contrast, Meizu just updated their M8 mobile phone with a "6th Generation" chip: the WM8993.

The RAmos Android thing is actually a MID, not a DAP / PMP. It uses a different Rockchip from the T51. Teclast will also make an Android MID - the T58- based on the same Rockchip platform.

And just to make it really confusing, SmartQ is going to come out with an Android-capable MID, but based on the Telechips platform of the Telcast T56 and RAmos T11 TE.

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in my knowledge, T51 is the first model that Teclast attempts to share the audiophile market. At least Teclast have made their efforts to have a new "5 cores" conception and provide us with a bigger touch screen and line out, I think Teclast have shown us their serious attitude to their customers.
Actually Teclast -or at least their marketing department- has long played up their "audiophile" cred. The marketing for the T51 tries to build a heritage from previous Teclast players, specifically the T29 and T39. The introduction of the T29 started the whole "core" buzzword (dual core, 5 core...) that Teclast is so fond of. The T29 was a Telechips 7-series + Wolfson 8750 and the T39 was a Telechips 8-series + Wolfson 8978. In that regard, they were "better" than most Chinese players at the time, although they suffered their fair share of firmware issues. The T39 especially left a lot of fans disappointed/angry with what could have been.
post #98 of 1468
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Originally Posted by chengdude View Post
Not really; WM8988 is considered "4th Generation" by Wolfson. It's an update to the WM8987, which has been by far the most popular chip used by Chinese manufacturers in recent years...in the Teclast T50, for a relevant example. By contrast, Meizu just updated their M8 mobile phone with a "6th Generation" chip: the WM8993.

The RAmos Android thing is actually a MID, not a DAP / PMP. It uses a different Rockchip from the T51. Teclast will also make an Android MID - the T58- based on the same Rockchip platform.

And just to make it really confusing, SmartQ is going to come out with an Android-capable MID, but based on the Telechips platform of the Telcast T56 and RAmos T11 TE.



Actually Teclast -or at least their marketing department- has long played up their "audiophile" cred. The marketing for the T51 tries to build a heritage from previous Teclast players, specifically the T29 and T39. The introduction of the T29 started the whole "core" buzzword (dual core, 5 core...) that Teclast is so fond of. The T29 was a Telechips 7-series + Wolfson 8750 and the T39 was a Telechips 8-series + Wolfson 8978. In that regard, they were "better" than most Chinese players at the time, although they suffered their fair share of firmware issues. The T39 especially left a lot of fans disappointed/angry with what could have been.
Thanks for the deep insight and informative comments. now it seems what T51 like is clear. this is why I still refuse to make any further comments on it's sound quality. in fact I have said very clearly in my previous two posts.

I am looking forward to read more full reviews by really core audiophiles. again, I am not qualify to make a detail review on any audio brands in term of sound quality.

Anyway, I respec the efforts of Teclast on DAPs( they have so many models!!!,I can't imagine). and they privde the cheapest DAP with 3.5 touch screen and line out. At least T51 can satisfy their target of customers group.
post #99 of 1468
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The T29 was a Telechips 7-series + Wolfson 8750 and the T39 was a Telechips 8-series + Wolfson 8978. The T39 especially left a lot of fans disappointed/angry with what could have been.
I loved that Telechips 770 + WM8750 combo. I had that in the Kingston K-PEX which was a rebranded Chinese player. With the ER4P/S that was an all time favorite of mine. Better than some of the newer ones such as the Meizu M6 with the 8978. More natural, realistic, and a bigger analog like sound.
post #100 of 1468
how do they make thse for the money

was just looking on the bay at the M66HD is it ? 800x screen, FLAC support, 720p support, WM8988 DAC - all for about $120 ?

anyone tried a M66 HD ?
post #101 of 1468
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how do they make thse for the money

was just looking on the bay at the M66HD is it ? 800x screen, FLAC support, 720p support, WM8988 DAC - all for about $120 ?
It's about $70 in China
post #102 of 1468
The T58 will sport Android as its OS, will have Wi-Fi (and maybe GPS). I've seen the low price of $147 mentioned, but the source of the information was unclear.
post #103 of 1468
nice to see google os making the rounds. this, more than any marketing advertisements, has me interested.
post #104 of 1468
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nice to see google os making the rounds. this, more than any marketing advertisements, has me interested.
Me too. Here in Taiwan there are many cheap players around, but too often the firmware is lacking, never updated, and badly translated into English. With Android, I'm assured that it won't be a pain to listen to audiobooks (it took time for Sandisk to get it right, but the Clip is now very practical in that respect), because if not Google, then someone will come with a proper piece of software for that express purpose.
post #105 of 1468
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The T58 will sport Google Chrome as its OS, will have Wi-Fi (and maybe GPS). I've seen the low price of $147 mentioned, but the source of the information was unclear.
google OS isit possible? and GPS function is better than camera though.
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