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post #91 of 1947
I can't wait until the inevitable comparison between this, Musiland 01 USD and Teralink-X.
post #92 of 1947
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Originally Posted by K3cT View Post
I can't wait until the inevitable comparison between this, Musiland 01 USD and Teralink-X.
Well I received my m2tech unit today and initial impressions are extremely good
I still need to do some more thorough testing but for now all I can say is that straight out of the box, the m2tech is (much) better than the Musiland 01 USD and Teralink-X.
I will post a full length comparison review of 4 usb to spdif converters (including the m2tech) this week-end.
For now, I will let it burn-in to see if the sound changes.
post #93 of 1947
not surprzing really, teralink and musiland build quality /parts never impressed me. This is exciting, can't wait for your comparison. Wish I knew more about the insides of this thing. Be nice if it had Directsound support for games.
post #94 of 1947
slima.

Do you have a regular coaxial output or did you customize it to be BNC?

BTW, the changes are a lot more noticeable if your DAC is not re-clocking. Hooking this up to my receiver (Pioneer VSX-92 TXH), the sound is FAR superior to using Apple Airport Express, or directly out of onboard Coaxial on my media/file server (Asus P5E-VM HDMI)
post #95 of 1947
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Originally Posted by tosehee View Post
slima.

Do you have a regular RCA output or did you customize it to be BNC?

BTW, the changes are a lot more noticeable if your DAC is not re-clocking. Hooking this up to my receiver (Pioneer VSX-92 TXH), the sound is FAR superior to using Apple Airport Express, or directly out of onboard Coaxial on my media/file server (Asus P5E-VM HDMI)
I ordered mine with a BNC output.

As for the re-clocking, I totally agree with you : a perfect DAC should not be affected by the transport. However this is not the case with the DAC I am using (the audio-gd dac-19mk3)which is extremely transparent in the analog section but sensitive to transport jitter/quality in the digital side. This might explain why I hear such big diffrences between usb to spdif converters and digital cables.
post #96 of 1947
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Originally Posted by slim.a View Post
I ordered mine with a BNC output.

As for the re-clocking, I totally agree with you : a perfect DAC should not be affected by the transport. However this is not the case with the DAC I am using (the audio-gd dac-19mk3)which is extremely transparent in the analog section but sensitive to transport jitter/quality in the digital side. This might explain why I hear such big diffrences between usb to spdif converters and digital cables.
Well, mine supposed to have a pretty damn good jitter correction dsp inside, and I still hear a difference. So, I do not think having THE bad-ass jitter rejection DAC would fight off all the jitters. This is definitely a keeper in my box.
post #97 of 1947
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Originally Posted by slim.a View Post
Well I received my m2tech unit today and initial impressions are extremely good
I still need to do some more thorough testing but for now all I can say is that straight out of the box, the m2tech is (much) better than the Musiland 01 USD and Teralink-X.
I will post a full length comparison review of 4 usb to spdif converters (including the m2tech) this week-end.
For now, I will let it burn-in to see if the sound changes.
So the m2tech is (much) better "straight out of the box?" How is it even possible to make a comparison to the Musiland and Teralink converters without an a/b test? Are you basing that opinion purely on memory? I hope the m2tech lives up to the hype but there are far to many flavor of the month products on this forum.
post #98 of 1947
Hope I dont suffer from waiting to order one and now get stuck waiting foreveer or paying more.
post #99 of 1947
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Originally Posted by StateRadioFan View Post
So the m2tech is (much) better "straight out of the box?" How is it even possible to make a comparison to the Musiland and Teralink converters without an a/b test? Are you basing that opinion purely on memory? I hope the m2tech lives up to the hype but there are far to many flavor of the month products on this forum.
I thought he has all those on hand, and his review is based on AB testing, not from a past memory.
post #100 of 1947
slim you got bnc right?
post #101 of 1947
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slim you got bnc right?
Just read a few lines above.
post #102 of 1947
So are the x64 Seven drivers working well? Are there any options or a panel or something?
post #103 of 1947
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Originally Posted by DoYouRight View Post
So are the x64 Seven drivers working well? Are there any options or a panel or something?
x64 drivers do not work yet. I have notified the m2tech, so awaiting on their reply.

As for 32bit drivers, slim.a, what OS are you using?

I have run with these two OS(es), and I seem to hear the difference. Call me crazy..

1. Windows XP
2. Windows 7 32bit

With two above, windows XP sounds much better to me. I don't know why.

Also, windows 7 32bit crashes a lot. I get BSOD and the system immediately reboots. I reported this also to m2tech for further investigation. Under XP 32bit, the driver is rock solid so far. I haven't crashed once.

In short, I am seeing that m2tech drivers are little unstable under Windows 7 environment. I am sure it'll get stabilized over time though. I will keep this thread updated with more information as I found/test more stuffs under different environments.

Regards
post #104 of 1947
tos since you didnt get a musiland so no comparison. What improvements are you hearing with your REF1?
post #105 of 1947
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Originally Posted by DoYouRight View Post
tos since you didnt get a musiland so no comparison. What improvements are you hearing with your REF1?
I have reported my findings in previous thread, but in short, the sounds are smoother in general. I can go in depth, but I don't want to sound like m2tech fanboy either, so I will leave the actual review to those who have m2tech and musiland. They (slim.a for one) can probably do a better job at comparison those two.

As for xp vs. windows 7 (both 32bit), KS in XP sounds more smoother, less harsh to me. The soundstage seems more accurate with more distinction. Again, call me crazy, but that's what I hear. The driver on Windows 7 is not really stable, and this might contribute to this also.

Regards
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