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post #331 of 1946

My Hiface has arrived

My Hiface arrived this morning and is running in as I type. I sounds very different to my Musiland monitor 02us digital output from new. I wont post extended thoughts until it has had a couple of days of running in.

Initial impression is of a very large soundstage but a bit soft and emotionally detached. I am hoping it will change dramatically with run in.

It was very easy to install under windows xp pro. Amongst the easiest things I have ever installed. The firmware upgrade for the musiland was one of the worst installs I have ever done (but a great wee gadget). I hate it when I see musilands described as toys. I love them and bang for buck they are great.

I am using the Hiface through an audio-gd reference 1 dac.

regards

macrog
post #332 of 1946
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I hate it when I see musilands described as toys. I love them and bang for buck they are great.
I also like my 01 USD, excellent performance and certainly great VfM.

But economically speaking and compared to Diverter or Bel Canto's converter - Musilands are toys.
post #333 of 1946
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I am using the Hiface through an audio-gd reference 1 dac.
Let us know if the HiFace is a worthy upgrade with the RE1.
RE1 does a good job at reclocking the signal and I was wondering if the HiFace was worth it for someone who could get a bit perfect digital signal from the motherboard via TOSlink or RCA jacks.
post #334 of 1946
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Let us know if the HiFace is a worthy upgrade with the RE1.
RE1 does a good job at recloking the signal and I was wondering if the HiFace was worth it for someone who could get a bit perfect digital signal from the motherboard via TOSlink or RCA jacks.
Yes the Hiface is great and a clear improvement on the musiland monitor 02us which was an improvement on the Xonar ST which was an improvement on the coaxial digital output from my motherboard.

There is no doubt it is a huge improvement on motherboard digital output.

Reclocking at the dac is a great idea but clearly the better your digital source the more information that is resolved by the dac.

You seriously wont regret getting the Hiface.

macrog
post #335 of 1946
Thanks for the fast response Macrog. I will get this device.
post #336 of 1946
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Originally Posted by somestranger26 View Post
Of course I did. And just to be ABSOLUTELY CERTAIN it's not an issue with Windows, I just reinstalled and am having the same issue. I play something in Foobar with KS enabled to the hiface, my DAC locks it but nothing plays, Foobar crashes tragically. I'm definitely contacting m2tech about this now.
Uninstall ASIO4all and then try KS again after a reboot. It can cause this in certain configurations.
post #337 of 1946
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Originally Posted by athenaesword View Post
hey sadhill,

with regards to your last statement - waiting meaning i don't get the hiface? or get the hiface, and hold off on the dac (i.e get a bnc hiface and use a bnc - RCA connector)
Is BNC better than RCA?
post #338 of 1946
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Is BNC better than RCA?
technically yes because it's true 75ohm
post #339 of 1946
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technically yes because it's true 75ohm
... and has less jitter.
post #340 of 1946
Damn but my DAC doesn't have BNC input
post #341 of 1946
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Damn but my DAC doesn't have BNC input
Some DACs, even Hi End ones don't have BNC inputs, as standard but as an option.
post #342 of 1946
A connector has no "characteristic impedance", a cable have one (at high frequencies)...
R.C.
post #343 of 1946

Hiface vs Musiland

The Hiface does seem better than the Musiland monitor 02us but the difference isn't night and day.

The improvements I have noticed are:
- Better imaging (height and depth)
- Perhaps a bit more micro detail e.g. extended decay on instruments (The Bells on tubular bells sound wonderful)

I think the bass may be a little weaker than the musiland.

The performance of the Hiface does highlight the value of the Musiland monitor 02us which costs significantly less performs very nearly as well but also includes a good quality dac and headphone amp.

How long does the Hiface take to sound its best?

Macrog
post #344 of 1946
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Originally Posted by macrog View Post
The Hiface does seem better than the Musiland monitor 02us but the difference isn't night and day.

The improvements I have noticed are:
- Better imaging (height and depth)
- Perhaps a bit more micro detail e.g. extended decay on instruments (The Bells on tubular bells sound wonderful)

I think the bass may be a little weaker than the musiland.

The performance of the Hiface does highlight the value of the Musiland monitor 02us which costs significantly less performs very nearly as well but also includes a good quality dac and headphone amp.

How long does the Hiface take to sound its best?

Macrog
Now I am confused, doesn't M2Tech RCA cost $150, same as Musiland Monitor 02US.
post #345 of 1946
Musiland is $138 incl shipping
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