One thing I have learned during tube rolling my Cayin HA-1A is how great some modern tubes can sound. Who says all modern tubes are just junk or so so? Most such blanket statements are simply false in audio. So I figure I would start a thread where people can post about modern production tubes that sound great compared to NOS tubes.
By the way, we often say NOS tubes, but in most cases they one can't be sure if the tube were ever used. To me out-of-production tubes that test strong with no obvious sign of use can be called NOS or slightly used, and it does not really matter except for to make the buyer feel better and pay more. Surely new in box tubes are attractive, but who knows if they are pulled genuine tubes or bulk genuine tubes intentionally put into old boxes (or even fake boxes). It is possible to identify fake tubes, but fake paper boxes?
Anyway back to the story of modern tubes. The one I am going to recommend is New Sensor's reissue of Genalex Gold Lion N709 (=6BQ5, EL84).
I don't know the history of the original Gexalex N709, or how much the reissue resembles the original. But I have tube rolled the same position (one EL84 per channel) with a bunch of old and new tubes:
(Label/type/country/year)
Marconi Radiotron/ 6BQ5/ Japan/ ?
Valvo/ 6BQ5/ West Germany/ ?
GE/ 6BQ5/ USA/ ?
GE/ 7189/ USA/ ?
Russia military/ 6P14P-EV/ Russia/ 1980s
Amperex odd pair EL84 (one UK, one West Germany)
Sovtek/ Russia/ EL84/ modern
JJ/ Czech/ EL84/ modern
Electro Harmonix/ EL84/ modern
Although none of the NOS tubes I have tried are the super-expensive type because I can't afford them, the Genalex reissue has to be a pretty special tube to sound clearly better than all others I have tested. I am mainly assessing the tonal purity of classical instruments using a pair of K1000. My second favorite is the 6P14P-EV Russian military NOS. The Genalex reissue stands out so easily for both its warmth and treble clarity. It is neither bottom-heavy nor sibilant, but very neutral. It sells for $55 per pair on tubedepot. Considering that JJ goes for $16 per pair, the reissued Genalex is pretty expensive for modern tubes. For the same price one can almost buy American NOS tubes on Ebay. But I have to say the Genelax reissue is simply better than similarly priced NOS tubes I bought. Although I am still using NOS tubes at the 12AX7 and 12AU7 position of my amp (must have tried >50 different old-production tubes for those two spots), I am now very open-minded to premium modern tubes. I think we need to promote good modern tubes more often.
By the way, we often say NOS tubes, but in most cases they one can't be sure if the tube were ever used. To me out-of-production tubes that test strong with no obvious sign of use can be called NOS or slightly used, and it does not really matter except for to make the buyer feel better and pay more. Surely new in box tubes are attractive, but who knows if they are pulled genuine tubes or bulk genuine tubes intentionally put into old boxes (or even fake boxes). It is possible to identify fake tubes, but fake paper boxes?
Anyway back to the story of modern tubes. The one I am going to recommend is New Sensor's reissue of Genalex Gold Lion N709 (=6BQ5, EL84).
I don't know the history of the original Gexalex N709, or how much the reissue resembles the original. But I have tube rolled the same position (one EL84 per channel) with a bunch of old and new tubes:
(Label/type/country/year)
Marconi Radiotron/ 6BQ5/ Japan/ ?
Valvo/ 6BQ5/ West Germany/ ?
GE/ 6BQ5/ USA/ ?
GE/ 7189/ USA/ ?
Russia military/ 6P14P-EV/ Russia/ 1980s
Amperex odd pair EL84 (one UK, one West Germany)
Sovtek/ Russia/ EL84/ modern
JJ/ Czech/ EL84/ modern
Electro Harmonix/ EL84/ modern
Although none of the NOS tubes I have tried are the super-expensive type because I can't afford them, the Genalex reissue has to be a pretty special tube to sound clearly better than all others I have tested. I am mainly assessing the tonal purity of classical instruments using a pair of K1000. My second favorite is the 6P14P-EV Russian military NOS. The Genalex reissue stands out so easily for both its warmth and treble clarity. It is neither bottom-heavy nor sibilant, but very neutral. It sells for $55 per pair on tubedepot. Considering that JJ goes for $16 per pair, the reissued Genalex is pretty expensive for modern tubes. For the same price one can almost buy American NOS tubes on Ebay. But I have to say the Genelax reissue is simply better than similarly priced NOS tubes I bought. Although I am still using NOS tubes at the 12AX7 and 12AU7 position of my amp (must have tried >50 different old-production tubes for those two spots), I am now very open-minded to premium modern tubes. I think we need to promote good modern tubes more often.












