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post #1216 of 2102
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Originally Posted by kvtaco17 View Post
 

So the new RS1e puts the driver super close to your ear... it kinda sounds somewhere between the RS1i with L cushions and flats. Now I do like the sound BUT my ear actually is directly up against the cheese cloth driver covering. It doesn't bother me but some might find it annoying. If you want your new pair of RS1e's to fit like the previous RS1e I have a solution!

 

Steal 2 hair ties from your GF/wife/co-worker/friend/stranger and put them around the protruding part of the driver and slide the L cushion over it! SIMPLE! it will keep the exposed edge of the driver off your ear and push the cushion out slightly, now these feel just like the old RS1 with no real effect on sound, except a tiny increase in sound stage.

 

 

 

 

 

Worth it if the fit of the new model bothers you!

 

Just curious, will the L-Cush pads from the RS1i fit the new model and if so, would that help?

post #1217 of 2102
Pads are pretty much the same I have a ton of them
post #1218 of 2102
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Originally Posted by kvtaco17 View Post

Pads are pretty much the same I have a ton of them
Which pads seem to work the best with your new RS1e's? Any chance yet for experimentation?
post #1219 of 2102
I'm holding off pad rolling for a minute, most of my extra stuff is now packed for my move... BUT the little I did try the same stuff holds true as before...

s-cushions roll off the treble and add some perceived bass at the cost of detail and sound stage

quarter modded s-cushions have better detail then non modded s-cushions but aren't as detailed or spacious as stock

l-cushions are stock and seem to be a compromise

reverse l-cushions add bass, are more comfortable then stock and only sacrifice some sound stage and a little bit of detail

taped l-cushions add bass and don't lose much of anything

flats sound like flats lol

g-cushions add more sound stage at the cost of body and bass
Edited by kvtaco17 - 6/27/14 at 11:49am
post #1220 of 2102
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Originally Posted by kvtaco17 View Post

I'm holding off pad rolling for a minute, most of my extra stuff is now packed for my move... BUT the little I did try the same stuff holds true as before...

s-cushions roll off the treble and add some perceived bass at the cost of detail and sound stage

quarter modded s-cushions have better detail then non modded s-cushions but aren't as detailed or spacious as stock

l-cushions are stock and seem to be a compromise

reverse l-cushions add bass, are more comfortable then stock and only sacrifice some sound stage and a little bit of detail

tapped l-cushions add bass and don't lose much of anything

flats sound like flats lol

g-cushions add more sound stage at the cost of body and bass

 

But the e-series L-Cush appear to be shallow compared to the i-series... is that the case?

post #1221 of 2102
No they only appear shallower because the protruding driver deforms them.
post #1222 of 2102
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Originally Posted by up late View Post

how does soundstage and instrument separation compare? if the mids aren't as forward with the ps500 does it sound more spacious?

The instruments do sound more spacious with the PS500 to my ears.  I'm going back and forth listening to my usual test tracks and they both represent the music so differently that it's difficult to compare.

post #1223 of 2102

That being said I think the RS1e represents the music more accurately and there seems to be some coloration with the PS500.  I came to this conclusion after comparing my HD800 with the RS1e and noticing the instruments sound very similar between the two.  I guess this would make sense considering there both "reference" class headphones.

post #1224 of 2102
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Originally Posted by kvtaco17 View Post

No they only appear shallower because the protruding driver deforms them.

this is not correct, grado's new bowl pads are shallower than the old ones. its noticeable.
post #1225 of 2102
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Originally Posted by beez View Post

this is not correct, grado's new bowl pads are shallower than the old ones. its noticeable.

I'm only going by pictures, but they sure look shallower... So will Grado offer 2 versions of L-Cush pads depending on the model or will the pads all be "e-series"?
post #1226 of 2102
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Originally Posted by Oracle View Post

The instruments do sound more spacious with the PS500 to my ears.  I'm going back and forth listening to my usual test tracks and they both represent the music so differently that it's difficult to compare.

thanks
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Originally Posted by Oracle View Post

That being said I think the RS1e represents the music more accurately and there seems to be some coloration with the PS500.  I came to this conclusion after comparing my HD800 with the RS1e and noticing the instruments sound very similar between the two.  I guess this would make sense considering there both "reference" class headphones.

the rs1e and hd800 could also have more treble energy than the ps500
post #1227 of 2102
Hmmm...that makes sense
post #1228 of 2102

Not 'could', they both absolutely do. Had the PS500 and could not live with the lack of treble energy.. not that I'm a treble head but I do love the treble of the HD800 (with tubes) and the RS1i can be a little much for me at times but I'm getting used to it.

Was interested in the RS1e but with the drivers belong closer to the ear.. not so much.

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the rs1e and hd800 could also have more treble energy than the ps500
post #1229 of 2102
For the conspiracy guys that think Grado changed the l-cush...

Hi Ryan


There has been no change made to the cushions any perceived change is from the driver sticking out.


Thanks



On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 9:37 AM, Grado Labs wrote:

This is an enquiry email via http://www.gradolabs.com/ from:
Ryan Chan

Have you guys changed your pads on the RS1e? A lot of people think they are new pads because they look shallower when really the protruding driver is just closer to your ear. Please let me know.
post #1230 of 2102
that'll only make them more suspicious wink.gif
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