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post #16 of 21
9/14/09 at 11:48am
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If you like dark and melodic, how come Beethoven's Seventh isn't on your list? You will love it - especially the second movement. Go get yourself a copy!
absolutely. kleiber's 5th/7th is a must.

staying with beethoven, the dark and melodic piano concerto i highly recommend is his 4th. pollini/abbado is outstanding.
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post #17 of 21
9/14/09 at 7:49pm
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I actually own the Pollini Chopin Etudes, (they're my favorite interpretation), and Abbado's Verdi Requiem


I need to get more beethoven symphonies/concertos...
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post #18 of 21
9/14/09 at 8:58pm
I hope I can be helpful here.......

Symphonies
In the symphony....there are roughly about a dozen composers who dominate the medium. I'll list some of their best works below with a recommended recording for each.

Beethoven:
  • Symphony No. 3 (Vanska / Minnesota Orchestra)
  • Symphony No. 5 (Kleiber / Vienna Philharmonic)
  • Symphony No. 6 (Walter / Columbia Symphony)
  • Symphony No. 7 (Kleiber / Vienna Philharmonic....this is paired with the 5th Symphony)
  • Symphony No. 9 (Vanska / Minnesota Orchestra)

Berlioz:
  • Symphonie Fantastique (Colin Davis / Royal Concertgebouw)

Brahms:
  • Symphony No. 1 (Karajan / Berlin Philharmonic...paired with Schumann Symphony 1)
  • Symphony No. 2 (Walter / Columbia Symphony)
  • Symphony No. 3 (Walter / Columbia Symphony....paired with symphony No. 2)
  • Symphony No. 4 (Kleiber / Vienna Philharmonic)

Bruckner:
  • Symphony No. 4 (Bohm / Vienna Philharmonic)
  • Symphony No. 7 (Wand / Berlin Philharmonic)
  • Symphony No. 8 (Wand / Berlin Philharmonic)
  • Symphony No. 9 (Wand / Berlin Philharmonic)

Dvorak:
  • Symphony No. 7 (Christoph Dohnanyi / Cleveland Orchestra)
  • Symphony No. 8 (Christoph Dohnanyi / Cleveland Orchestra...paired with the other two listed)
  • Symphony No. 9 (Christoph Dohnanyi / Cleveland Orchestra...paired with the other two listed)

Haydn:
  • The Complete London Symphonies.......(Symphonies 93-104 -Colin Davis / London Symphony)


Mahler:
  • Symphony No. 1 (Leonard Bernstein / Royal Concertgebouw)
  • Symphony No. 2 (Litton / Dallas Symphony)
  • Symphony No. 3 (Chailly / Royal Concertgebouw)
  • Symphony No. 4 (Fischer / Budapest Symphony)
  • Symphony No. 5 (Barshai / German Youth Orchestra)
  • Symphony No. 9 (Karajan / Berliner Philharmoniker....1982 recording)

Mozart:
  • Symphony No. 40 (Levine / Vienna Philharmonic)
  • Symphony No. 41 (Levine / Vienna Philarmonic....Paired with Symphony 40)

Schubert:
  • Symphony No. 8 (Kleiber / Vienna Philharmonic)
  • Symphony No. 9 (Solti / Vienna Philharmonic)

Shostakovich:
  • Symphony No. 5 (Gergiev / Kirov Orchestra)
  • Symphony No. 8 (Gergiev / Kirov Orchestra)
  • Symphony No. 10 (Karajan / Berlin Philharmonic)

Sibelius:
  • Symphony No. 2 (Colin Davis / Boston Symphony)
  • Symphony No. 5 (Colin Davis / Boston Symphony)
  • Symphony No. 7 (Colin Davis / Boston Symphony....paired with the 5th)

Tchaikovksy:
  • Symphony No. 4 (Jansons / Oslo Philharmonic)
  • Symphony No. 5 (Jansons / Oslo Philharmonic)
  • Symphony No. 6 (Jansons / Oslo Philharmonic)


These are the 12 composers which I feel dominate the history of the Symphony most prominently. Other composers definitely deserve a mention
  • Mendelssohn
  • Schumann
  • Prokofiev
  • Vaughan Williams
  • Ives
  • Rachmaninov
  • Copland
  • Nielsen
  • Saint-Saens
  • Barber

For the Concerto I will segment them into Piano Concerto / Concerto for stringed instruments / and concerto for winds and or brass

Piano Concerto: 20 of the greatest piano concertos...
  • Beethoven - Piano Concerto No. 5 (Kovacevich)
  • Brahms - Piano Concerto No. 2 (Gilels)
  • Schumann - Piano Concerto (Lupu)
  • Grieg - Piano Concerto (Andsnes)
  • Beethoven - Piano Concerto No. 4 (Kovacevich)
  • Mozart - Piano Concerto No. 20 (Perahia)
  • Rachmaninov - Piano Concerto No. 2 (Richter)
  • Brahms - Piano Concerto No. 1 (Gilels)
  • Tchaikovsky - Piano Concerto No. 1 (Argerich)
  • Rachmaninov - Piano Concerto No. 3 (Argerich)
  • Chopin - Piano Concerto No. 1 (Zimermann)
  • Mozart - Piano Concerto No. 27 (Perahia)
  • Bartok - Piano Concerto No. 1 (Pollini)
  • Mozart - Piano Concerto No. 21 (Perahia)
  • Liszt - Piano Concerto No. 1 (Zimermann)
  • Prokofiev - Piano Concerto No. 3 (Ashkenazy)
  • Saint-Saens - Piano Concerto No. 2 (Hough)
  • Tchaikovsky - Piano Concerto No. 2 (Pletnev)
  • Bartok - Piano Concerto No. 2 (Pollini)
  • Ravel - Piano Concerto in G (Michelangeli)

Concerto for Strings: 10 great concertos
  • Brahms - Violin Concerto (Mutter)
  • Beethoven - Violin Concerto (Vengerov)
  • Elgar - Cello Concerto (du Pre)
  • Dvorak - Cello Concerto (Rostropovich)
  • Mendelssohn - Violin Concerto (Heifetz)
  • Tchaikovsky - Violin Concerto (Vengerov)
  • Sibelius - Violin Concerto (Mutter)
  • Berlioz - Harold In Italy (Concerto/Symphony for Viola) (Zukerman)
  • Barber - Violin Concerto (Shaham)
  • Bruch - Violin Concerto No. 1 (Vengerov...paired with Mendelssohn)

Concerto for winds or brass: 4 great concertos
  • Mozart - Clarinet Concerto (King)
  • Mozart - 4 Horn Concertos (Civil)
  • Copland - Clarinet Concerto (Goodman)
  • Haydn - Trumpet Concerto (Brain)
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post #19 of 21
10/13/09 at 12:21am
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Which is the best complete Beethoven Symphonies work? Is the Solti any good? (with CSO)
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post #20 of 21
10/31/09 at 5:33am
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Which is the best complete Beethoven Symphonies work?
Interested in that too... especially 5th and 9th.

I'm very surprised no one mentioned Brahms violin concerto. Stern, Mutter, Ricci or any violinist with strong characteristics will blow your mind away with Brahms violin concerto. (Not Perlman lol, though his Beethoven violin concerto is very good.)

Carman-Fantasie: Mutter. That will take your breath away.

Any violin record played by David Oistrakh would be great. In fact I have not heard any better "The Devil's Trill" than his. The only problem is - CD remastering is no where close to the original vinyl. If you know of any good remastered David Oistrakh CD's let me know. I'll definitely get it.

Bought David Oistrahk's 16/17 CD box set "The Complete EMI Recordings", the music is great but somewhat feel that the remastering work needs improvement... Not sure its my equipment, or really the remastering lacking.
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post #21 of 21
10/31/09 at 5:57am
Try the Bartok string quartets; in the same vein as the Shostakovich, but a bit more folky/modernist and less lyrical. Dramatic and complicated!

For Beethoven cycles, there was a useful thread quite recently: http://www.head-fi.org/forums/f9/bee...rdings-436583/ Choosing between any of the ones mentioned there is very much a matter of taste; FWIW I prefer the light and lively approach, so I like the Mackerras and Zinman versions.
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