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post #16 of 22
I am not a technical guy so most if not all that has been written escapes me. However FWIW the vendor did apologize for his mistake, you may wish to find his retraction which states:

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I would like to state for the record, that I was mixing up sampling rate, with analog bandwidth. I was merely stating that according to the American Wire Gauge standards, 100% skin depth is achievable with 26 gauge wire up to 107Khz.

My apologies for the confusion.
post #17 of 22
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I am not a technical guy so most if not all that has been written escapes me. However FWIW the vendor did apologize for his mistake, you may wish to find his retraction which states:
Hey, but that's like if a car manufacturer apologised for mixing the steering wheel with one of the 4 wheels.
post #18 of 22
But apologize he did, do you other issues with this seller? I ask because you have two similar threads going on this issue.
post #19 of 22
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But apologize he did, do you other issues with this seller? I ask because you have two similar threads going on this issue.
No, no other issues. And the other thread is not on the same issue, it's on a Prize!
post #20 of 22
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But apologize he did, do you other issues with this seller? I ask because you have two similar threads going on this issue.
And, by the way, that seller seems to be a nice guy and his prices are acceptable (as opposed to the prices of some of his competitors in selling HD800 aftermarket cables!).

However, trying to convince that his cables are able to let go 96kHz and then "explaining" why this is needed, with a lot of conviction... is... how to put it... funny

Apologising afterwards on the "confusion" means nothing, it is obvious that he has zero idea about the audible frequencies and sampling frequencies and so on. Again, it's like if a car manufacturer mixes the steering wheel with a tyre, then explaines why a steering wheel has a better contact with the road and therefore the car gets a better propulsion, and in the end apologises for the "confusion".

Would you accept the apologise and would you trust that car producer?

Fortunately you don't need to know much about electronics and physics and acoustics in order to build a good cable. All you need to know is... soldering. Therefore I don't doubt that his cables are as good and as well-built as other similar cables, selling at 800-1400 USD.
post #21 of 22
Yeah that comparison fits pretty well.
Now I'd love to see a car on 4 steering wheels!

This one is quite funny:
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blablablablablabla...
The end result of conditioning cables with the VIDAR is improved soundstaging, increased detail, and an overall more musical presentation. The VIDAR can burn in any digital audio, analog audio ... cable.
What a must-have device.
post #22 of 22
I read this article a while ago from the Consumerist (take it as you will) and they basically 'proved' that there's absolutely no audible difference between "high-end" Monster cables and a coat hanger.

Experiments: Do Coat Hangers Sound As Good Monster Cables?

BTW, the skin effect of the cable description is hilarious. I was laughing my ass off when I was reading through the thread. Yeah sure there could be some effect, but it will be so incredibly negligible in audio transmission. We studied the properties of coaxial cables (with and without different types of filters) as a waveguide; hooked them up to a network analyzer and sent Ghz signals through them. We saw all of the effects and whatnot associated with them... but for audio? The frequencies are so low.
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