Head-Direct RE0 Appreciation Thread - Page 15

Is it the source or is it the RE0 ?

That is the question

Ive never owned CX300, but their very blotted in the bass aint they.

If you were trying to make the RE0s sound like the CX300s could this cause the problem either from over EQing the source or overdriving the RE0s?

What is "crackling bass" as that makes zero sense to me.

Also the CX300 has both plenty of bass impact and decay with lots and lots of bloat, bleed and mud. No amount of EQ will make the RE0 come close to that level of bass quantity.

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Originally Posted by paulypaul 

If its crackling on both sides of RE0s it seems a bit strange that both drivers may be faulty.

Have you tried the RE0s on another source ? to see if they crackle ?

Are you playing mp3s ?

If you think there may be a  chance the heavy bass of the cowon EQ may be clipping the mp3, you could apply "mp3gain" to reduce the level of the mp3.

 

mp3gain

 

I use it on all my songs.

 

If the crackle is coming from the RE0s and not the source, then id be sending them back.

I tried the program it worked on the song ive tried it on. Though the volume gets lower which means that even at max i dont get the volume i want for it:(

 

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Originally Posted by Mad Max 

Wouldn't the inner foam touching against the drivers very lightly also produce the crackling?

Inner foam do u mean the thing that sits on the phones outer thing? I dont really know what u mean but i dont know why u get this black round thing to put on the phones (i never used it on my CX300)

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Originally Posted by rawrster 

What is "crackling bass" as that makes zero sense to me.

 

Also the CX300 has both plenty of bass impact and decay with lots and lots of bloat, bleed and mud. No amount of EQ will make the RE0 come close to that level of bass quantity.

Sorry im not very good at explaining what i mean in sound terms. It's just like the phones cant handle the bass and the bass sounds fucked up? I cant really describe it better then that. Like when you have a bass boost on a cheap stereo for the computer and u turn it up untill it sounds fucked up? And i guess thats whats happening here its just that i enjoy alot of bass i guess.

I dont know if its me being too used to the cx300 cuz i used them for 3years and i should get used to the Re0 instead.

What bitrate is your music at? Turn your EQ off and see if it's there.

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Originally Posted by Murre 

Inner foam do u mean the thing that sits on the phones outer thing? I dont really know what u mean but i dont know why u get this black round thing to put on the phones (i never used it on my CX300)

The foam inside the earphone itself, right behind the filter, just as I said it.  =\

If with the increase of bass through EQ or something it makes that crackling sound, then it could be the foam being too close to the drivers.  Moving the foam closer to the filter should then fix the problem, not to mention improve the soundstage slightly.

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Originally Posted by rawrster 

What bitrate is your music at? Turn your EQ off and see if it's there.

The music im testing at its 320kbps so that shouldt be a problem and without EQ i have no quality issues except for me the bass it too low.

 

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Originally Posted by Mad Max 

The foam inside the earphone itself, right behind the filter, just as I said it.  =\

If with the increase of bass through EQ or something it makes that crackling sound, then it could be the foam being too close to the drivers.  Moving the foam closer to the filter should then fix the problem, not to mention improve the soundstage slightly.

Ok well im not very used to fixing my own phones so not really sure if i should try that.

Then it's probably the EQ. Also anything would sound bass light compared to the CX300. These have a fairly neutral bass so you won't expect much past that assuming it's properly amped but I'm guessing most likely no.

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Originally Posted by rawrster 

Then it's probably the EQ. Also anything would sound bass light compared to the CX300. These have a fairly neutral bass so you won't expect much past that assuming it's properly amped but I'm guessing most likely no.

Nah its not amped actually i read somewhere that u got an amp for free if u orderd from head-direct.com but i didt get one atleast. But ye im guessing ure right maybe its just my ears that needs to get used to a new pair of phones.

Id say your trying to Eq bass levels into it that the RE0 is not capable of.

The RE0s are a very different IEM to the CX300. They are so much better, but you may need to get used to them.

It may not be for you if you want it to sound similar to the CX300 in the bottom end.

Also with mp3gain you can set the gain reduction. The default is 89db, but i set mine to 93db and that works fine.

Music files are pushed so close to clipping nowadays it ridiculous.

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Originally Posted by Murre 

I tried the program it worked on the song ive tried it on. Though the volume gets lower which means that even at max i dont get the volume i want for it:(

 

Foreign materials being to close the the diaphram can cause crackling of the sound, though I've only noticed this in full-sized 'phones.

I still think its the foam or the headphone is defective, I haven't read of crackling with other 'phones and/or Cowon S9's DSPs.

You can gently remove the filters with an Xacto knife, just stick to the rim there where it is sticking to.  Then you drag the foam you will see in the nozzle out a bit until it is about to start coming out then place the filters back on.  If you mess up the filters, just use a new pair from the included extras.  If you take good care of them, you won't be using the extra filters anyway.  If that doesn't work, your earphone could be defective.

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Originally Posted by Mad Max 

Foreign materials being to close the the diaphram can cause crackling of the sound, though I've only noticed this in full-sized 'phones.

 

I still think its the foam or the headphone is defective, I haven't read of crackling with other 'phones and/or Cowon S9's DSPs.

 

You can gently remove the filters with an Xacto knife, just stick to the rim there where it is sticking to.  Then you drag the foam you will see in the nozzle out a bit until it is about to start coming out then place the filters back on.  If you mess up the filters, just use a new pair from the included extras.  If you take good care of them, you won't be using the extra filters anyway.  If that doesn't work, your earphone could be defective.

Ok i tried this i didt have an xacto knife so i used a needle worked easily though i fucked up the filter which i replaced. When i got inside the foam was really packed inside the phone so i move it so it was very close to where the filter is and now even though i still have the same issue with the EQ on alot of bass the bass its alot better without the EQ:) so thanks alot this really helped me tons and i also had an issue with fitting the big white double buds or whatever u called it but now they fit really good:) i wont be returning theese.

Also note this could just be me imagining that this made a diffrence but i think it did atleast.

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Originally Posted by Murre 

Sorry im not very good at explaining what i mean in sound terms. It's just like the phones cant handle the bass and the bass sounds fucked up? I cant really describe it better then that. Like when you have a bass boost on a cheap stereo for the computer and u turn it up untill it sounds fucked up?" class="bbcode_smiley" height="" src="http://files.head-fi.org/images/smilies//smily_headphones1.gif" title="" width="" /> And i guess thats whats happening here its just that i enjoy alot of bass i guess.

 

I dont know if its me being too used to the cx300 cuz i used them for 3years and i should get used to the Re0 instead.

Maybe he's describing distortion?

Also no cussing on head-fi

It's probably distortion. It's not that your phones can't handle the bass, its that your source can't handle the phones. They are 64 ohms. I would get the same issue trying to use bass boost on my old and underpowered iPhone 3G headphone output. The amplifier on your source player is being overloaded and thus distorting.

Remember that people hook the RE0's up to some very serious amps to give it even more additional power. It can defintely handle a lot thrown at it.

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Originally Posted by a_recording 

It's probably distortion. It's not that your phones can't handle the bass, its that your source can't handle the phones. They are 64 ohms. I would get the same issue trying to use bass boost on my old and underpowered iPhone 3G headphone output. The amplifier on your source player is being overloaded and thus distorting.

 

Remember that people hook the RE0's up to some very serious amps to give it even more additional power. It can defintely handle a lot thrown at it.

Or rather the music isn't up for equalizing, so it distorts.  Not that RE0 isn't sensitive enough to go ampless, but a better source and amp (gear with a more refined sound) bring out the best in RE0, especially a better source.